VIP - Closed discussions of Old Versions

[OHgamer]

And would be WWI added in some VIP:R future version?

that is the eventual goal.

vip:r 0.2 will add the balkan wars of 1912-1913

we still need to develop the whole alliance system from the 1870s on.

maybe by vip:R 0.4 WWI will be integrated in.

 

[goosejn]

OH Gamer, i a playing the version you mentioned. What are those slavery ending events and when do they occur?

 

[coolguy684]

VIP older versions help

i need a new link to .4b VIP. the one here
doesn't work. and yes, i need this specific version.

 

[OHgamer]

i need a new link to .4b VIP. the one here
doesn't work. and yes, i need this specific version.

we no longer have that version. It was superseded by VIP 0.45 for Victoria 1.04

Download the 1.04 patch for Victoria and then once you are sure everything is working, apply VIP 0.45

note however, that we no longer actively support VIP 0.45 either, as the vast majority of players have switched to Revolutions. The VIP version for that is VIP:R 0.1, with 0.2 to be released in the next month.

Once VIP:R 0.2 is released, there will be no further support for VIP 0.45

 

[OHgamer]

OH Gamer, i a playing the version you mentioned. What are those slavery ending events and when do they occur?

events 272512-272517 in VIP_Texas.txt

they have various start and end dates, 272517 can happen from the start if you have certain parties in power, the remainder are events that can happen each decade after 1870.

 

[Garra-Ush]

maybe by vip:R 0.4 WWI will be integrated in.

And that would be in two years more or less?

 

[OHgamer]

And that would be in two years more or less?

hard to say, the thing that has delayed 0.2 was that we reworked resources and factories to add new resource and factory types, and that required a good deal of testing to balance right.

I'd like to have an 0.3 version by the end of this year if possible (0.2 hopefully for May 2008) so I'd rather get new versions reduced down to approx 6 months turnover.

But in the end it does come down to available free time among the developers and what contributions come from the player community. If the two or three developers who code have to do all the coding for the alliances so that the diplomacy leading to WWI is set, then it will take a good amount of time before WWI is included. If volunteers want to code the alliances for us, so that we can focus on balance and integration issues instead, it will take less time.

Event writing is in many ways the most time-consuming part of the process. If people in the community want to see more rapid turnovers in new versions of VIP with new material added, lending a hand in the event writing would be a major contribution to that process.

 

[Garra-Ush]

What are those territorial claims events? I've never heard about them

 

[Indefatigable]

Russia's weak military

I thoroughly enjoy VIP and its historical accuracy. However, Russia in VIP seems to have a pathetic military. The Turks are often able to defeat Russia by the Crimean War soundly, without help from Britain and France. Even by the time the First World War, Russia was still respected militarily, even if they didn't actually do well in the war.

I am just curious whether any others have experienced a weak Russia...

 

[OHgamer]

this has been addressed for VIP:R 0.2

Russia will no longer be a teddy bear, especially after the emancipation of the Serfs

 

[goosejn]

OH, i cannot find that event file. Do you know what parties are the ones that need to be in power. It is 1845 and i have the whigs in power.

 

[OHgamer]

OH, i cannot find that event file. Do you know what parties are the ones that need to be in power. It is 1845 and i have the whigs in power.

event file is in scenarios/VIPscen/events/VIP_Texas.txt

basically it's the radical parties that have free citizenship, so anarcho-liberals that early in game should work for you.

 

[Old Joe]

OHgamer, sorry for asking of this details, but how actually this will be implemented? with events? and who works on russian events and balancing for VIP2?

 

[OHgamer]

OHgamer, sorry for asking of this details, but how actually this will be implemented? with events? and who works on russian events and balancing for VIP2?

we have no one working on Russian events at this point.

balancing issue is my main focus.

and the main factor helping RUS will be we are restoring Ukrainian as a national culture for RUS after the end of serfdom.

 

[goosejn]

OH, used the party editor and made some of the regular liberal parties full citizenship. so the question is, if i do not have anarcho-liberals in power, as long as i have full or limited citizenship party in power, it should become a random triggering event after a certain yr. If that is the case, do you know what year the triggers start without the anarcho or reactionary parties in power.

 

[OHgamer]

OH, used the party editor and made some of the regular liberal parties full citizenship. so the question is, if i do not have anarcho-liberals in power, as long as i have full or limited citizenship party in power, it should become a random triggering event after a certain yr. If that is the case, do you know what year the triggers start without the anarcho or reactionary parties in power.

1870

 

[Old Joe]

so I AM working on them spending few hours or so every day-off! very interesting btw, know many new good sites. Did already about 100 new events, with backgrounds want to make an event per every year but looks like some years just have more events then others... ID's starting at 251951 , if thats matter

ukrainian as national culture? that is historically correct

 

[goosejn]

Thanks OH. Any suggestions as to how i can get my hands on my territorial claim lands that currently belong to the apache? The apache happen to be a satellite of the USA now. Western California is still in Mexican hands, so i can always DOW on then bc they are relatively weak, but what about the USA?

 

[Kryzantine]

I'd suggest going for those lands when the US is concentrated on the CSA. When America is disunited would be the precise moment to attack.

 

[Alyosha]

I just experienced the "Mahdist Uprising" as the Ottoman Empire. Looking at the trigger, it seems that this should not happen:

trigger = {
		random = 4
		OR = {
			AND = {
				NOT = { religion = { type = sunni } }
				NOT = { religion = { type = shiite } }
			}
			event = 28013
		}
	}

Am I missing something? This shouldn't fire if one's country is Sunni or Shiite, right?