VIP - Closed discussions of Old Versions

[unmerged(66346)]

I fought hard and worked hard to make sure that my Danish comrades are fine and even get Holstein

This is unfair but... I did the worst I could to help danemark as Sweden (Prussia won the war easly) and Scandinavia still formed. You don't need to actualy win the war, just stay away from the isolationism that occured in RL.

 

[unmerged(66346)]

About colonisation

Something I didn't understood with the VIP system is that while the colonisation is blocked in some continents I was still able to declare colonial war and settle in Africa as Sweden. I had a great loss of prestige while doing that of course (100 outch). But is it a bug ? Are there hidden consequences ?

 

[OHgamer]

what do i have to do to have a really huge American Civil War starting with the US?

i mean, with many states joining the south?

do i have to make all new states free to upset the south?

choose the "A" choices in any and all events so that you follow the historical path and you will almost always get the Civil War.

 

[OHgamer]

Something I didn't understood with the VIP system is that while the colonisation is blocked in some continents I was still able to declare colonial war and settle in Africa as Sweden. I had a great loss of prestige while doing that of course (100 outch). But is it a bug ? Are there hidden consequences ?

To discourage human players from DoWing the various African minors pre-1885 when the colonial bans lift there are "forced peace treaties" set up from the start that last until 1885. So if you DoW an African minor, you get an extra 100 negative prestige because you are "breaking" a peace treaty.

Just wait patiently until 1885 and that malus will be removed. If you look in your diplomacy window where it lists all your alliances and the like, you should see pre-1885 the list of all the nations you have peace treaties with that last until 1885, just scroll down the list.

 

[unmerged(75702)]

Breaking a treaty against a civilized opponent gives you 5 extra badboy, unfortunately that doesn't apply to uncivilized opponents.

 

[shasla6]

Should Norway really have the determinism to throw a monkey wrench in a unified Scandinavia? As I recall, it's a part of Sweden outright in vanilla.

 

[AzJeff]

Bismarckian Social Reforms

Hi,
Don't know if this has been reported yet....

The Bismarckian Social Reforms event (3004) in the vanilla Germany.txt file will not work because of incorrect coding in the trigger.

OR = {
reform = { type = health_care value = good }
reform = { type = safety_regulations value = good }
reform = { type = pension_funds value = good }

The command 'value' does not work for reform triggers; it should be 'level':

OR = {
reform = { type = health_care level = good }
reform = { type = safety_regulations level = good }
reform = { type = pension_funds level = good }

- j

 

[OHgamer]

thanks, will fix

 

[BinomistaR-G]

but i want one with more Confederate states than the normal one

 

[Dysken]

but i want one with more Confederate states than the normal one

Then I believe you should choose the slavery arguments prevail or was that enter as a slave state.

 

[Victor1234]

Should Norway really have the determinism to throw a monkey wrench in a unified Scandinavia? As I recall, it's a part of Sweden outright in vanilla.

Why not? If they're going to be a theoretically equal member of the union, no reason why they should be forced into it. At least, if in the choice of the Scandinavian capital you can choose Oslo, it would suggest Norway is an equal member. Plus, if I recall Norway had limited home rule as VIP depicts in the satellite status, it wasn't an integral part of Sweden like in vanilla.

 

[OHgamer]

Should Norway really have the determinism to throw a monkey wrench in a unified Scandinavia? As I recall, it's a part of Sweden outright in vanilla.

In VIP Norway is a separate satellite to reflect the fact that the union between Sweden and Norway was limited.

 

[RoyalArk14]

Haha, still annoying all the same. But it leaves us with the obvious-play as Sweden until the Schleswig event, go to a autosaved game and play as Norway and pick Scandinavian surge (as Sweden 95% of the time will pick that too), save and go back as Sweden to try and thrash the Prussians and voila: L'empire de Scandinavie pour vous. (Of course I was so pissed I'm playing as Russia and mauling Norway and Sweden for annoying me, all in a days work my friends...)

 

[BinomistaR-G]

Then I believe you should choose the slavery arguments prevail or was that enter as a slave state.

yeh, but then what i get a is a new england secession, which i dont want

i would like to find the balance

 

[OHgamer]

yeh, but then what i get a is a new england secession, which i dont want

i would like to find the balance

You are treading very thin ahistorical water in this case. The odds of extra confederate states joining are lower and are balanced by the the higher chance for New England to secede out of frustration with the pro-slavery arguments always winning.

I don't know if anyone has actually sat down to figure out the odds with each event needed though.

 

[robou]

well in my experiance i did all the things that were towards free and Missouri, Kentucky and Arizona scceded. Texas however did not

 

[Prinz Wilhelm]

well in my experiance i did all the things that were towards free and Missouri, Kentucky and Arizona scceded. Texas however did not

The Texans probably figured that the Confederates wouldn't win..

 

[Prinz Wilhelm]

OHG, How are the triggers for WWI working in VIP's GC?

Haven't actually tried it out, but I believe I will, so I want to know.

 

[RoyalArk14]

Has there ever been a case when the CSA has won the war without the help of a player? Cause I always see the CSA overrun the US, and then randomly in a puff of air it is gone. Never fails. They get so high on victory they just die!

 

[MonJoe]

Is there possibility of finding a working link to download R 0.1? I always end up at dead ends.