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Probably that will be your only option.Aaberg said:
The problem right now is that LOM creates an alliance and VEN creates its own alliance too, then both ally with each other, but, that is not usefull, because they still keep their own (old) alliances.
We will try to see what we can do for the next version.
OK, the events looks like a good addition... sadly, i am not an expert on those 2 countries, so someone else will have to "complain" about the "historicity" of those events.Taear said:
It is WAD, no reforms changes the flags of a country.Taear said:
If you like that change, you can easilly do it on your own.
mmm... probably the colonies of Spain are giving too much prestige to Carlos... :rofl:Taear said:
Yes. As frustrating as it is, that's the only way to do it.Aaberg said:
Well, I assumed as much.generalissimo said:
I just like to see the different flags, and it's also a good indicator of which NPC countries have gone democratic. I guess I will keep it for myself.
Well, about that Dutch event: some things: instead of demanding the Dutch to occupy only some provinces demand that the Dutch occupy 100% of the provs (how to do that? look in the 1914 scenario peace events) Second: Also add peace with Prussia, as IIRC they may join the war against the Netherlands too. Third: The event should lower relations with France, but even if the UK and Prussia fought against the Netherlands, it should improve the relations with them! Fourth: The Londen treaty should sleep your event, unless the Netherlands fight on... Fifth: your event descriptions is kinda strange I think Gent wouldnt make a difference, however if both Antwerpen and Brussels had fallen the resistance would probably have died soon. Also IIRC Leopold only became king of Belgium after the London treaty, so dont talk about Leopold accepting a peace And then a less important thing: Make the action name of the second event rather: Belgium is part of the Netherlands! or We regained our historical belongings!
I think Gent wouldnt make a difference, however if both Antwerpen and Brussels had fallen the resistance would probably have died soon. Also IIRC Leopold only became king of Belgium after the London treaty, so dont talk about Leopold accepting a peace And then a less important thing: Make the action name of the second event rather: Belgium is part of the Netherlands! or We regained our historical belongings!
Patch 0.4B for MAC now posted - go to the 0.4 Discussion and Bugs thread in this section for it.
Leopold is listed as being king of Belgium since 1790, otherwise I wouldn't have put him in. The reason I dropped Gent in there is because I figured without their port city, the belgians would have a much harder time getting resources to fight with.Strategist said:Well, about that Dutch event: some things: instead of demanding the Dutch to occupy only some provinces demand that the Dutch occupy 100% of the provs (how to do that? look in the 1914 scenario peace events) Second: Also add peace with Prussia, as IIRC they may join the war against the Netherlands too. Third: The event should lower relations with France, but even if the UK and Prussia fought against the Netherlands, it should improve the relations with them! Fourth: The Londen treaty should sleep your event, unless the Netherlands fight on... Fifth: your event descriptions is kinda strange
Prussia can join the war, but both them and Austria join the side of the Netherlands, so forced peace events aren't really necissary in this case.
And since the London treaty fires off so quickly, if it slept my event, only the best human player ever would be able to take those belgian provinces in that time. I know I've never managed to do it.
I'll drop in an improvement of relations with Prussia and Austria, and a decrease in relations with France forthwith, however. I'll leave the UK off though. Since the event is almost guarenteed to fire AFTER the London Treaty, the UK would be pretty annoyed by the annexation of Belgium after they'd said it was a nation. But if I add a decrease in relation, the UK might just start declaring war on the Netherlands randomly, which is rather a game-killer.
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MMM... i like this event better if it triggers in the beggining of the game.Taear said:
After all the nations have signed that Belgium is a (new) nation, this event will not have sense, because it lets HOL go away unpunished.
We can increase the offset of the London Treaty and do not make it "static" like it is now, so both events can trigger if the conditions are met.
All the nations signed that BEL was a new nation, including PRU, AUS and even RUS (if i remember correctly, the event says exactly the opposite, but it is wrong), so, after all the european countries signed that BEL is a new nation, they will let HOL annexed it???... i don't think so.
Well, if the London Treaty got offset, sure. And although everyone did come and sign it, everyone other than France supported the Dutch king until the end of the revolution - so soon after the Napoleonic wars, the other powers were either busy, or scared that France would annex an independant Belgium. This is why I don't think the annexation would anger everyone TOO much.Generalisimo said:MMM... i like this event better if it triggers in the beggining of the game.
After all the nations have signed that Belgium is a (new) nation, this event will not have sense, because it lets HOL go away unpunished.
We can increase the offset of the London Treaty and do not make it "static" like it is now, so both events can trigger if the conditions are met.
All the nations signed that BEL was a new nation, including PRU, AUS and even RUS (if i remember correctly, the event says exactly the opposite, but it is wrong), so, after all the european countries signed that BEL is a new nation, they will let HOL annexed it???... i don't think so.
I've just started a game as Texas, and not having played Victoria for some time, the Native American nations are a bit new to me. Having ran a hands off in which the USA got most of the native land I'll be expanding into through events, I'm concerned that I won't be able to expand without fighting a war with the USA and its American allies. Since I don't want to go through the event files and end up with very specific knowledge of everything that's going to happen (I'd like as much of it as possible to be a surprise), do the events for the Southwest indians happen for Texas instead if Texas exists? And if so, are there any special requirements I have to fill to get the land?
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If TEX survives, events will fire for TEX to get the territories in Cherokee instead of the USA. At least that is how I believe aprof scripted them (he did the ahistorical transfer events).
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Well, that is why I didnt say anything about that, the only reason the UK created and Prussia signed the Londen treaty was because they were afraid that France would goble them up if they didnt intervene, therefore the only nation that wouldnt like the Dutch annexation would be France...
I would like to see some sort of cooperation event...
like france whant to help HOL and make a treaty...
North Belgium to HOL and south to France
like france whant to help HOL and make a treaty...
North Belgium to HOL and south to France
They're not firing. They don't fire for the CSA either - however the CSA will often war and annex Cherokee, leading to an almost unending Colonial War with the US.OHgamer said:
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Yup. But the UK would be extremely angry that it's order had been ignored, if the London Treaty went off and Netherlands ignored it. I'm not sure what to do if the London Treaty doesn't get a little offset... perhaps it could be tied in to how many provinces the Netherlands owns. If it looks like the Netherlands is winning the war, no London Treaty (since it's not needed). If it's a stalemate or losing (like in reality), the London Treaty fires off.strategist said:
Would that work out?
I think it is better to stay simple with this chain, specially because it is in the beggining of the game and could destroy all the chains that come later (that were designed upon the idea that there is no WWI in Europe in 1839Taear said:
).The idea of the "alternative" chain is to give a chance to a very experienced player. The AI (and newbies too), on the other hand, must be assured to get the London Treaty and follow the historical path.
So, it is only 2 choices:
OR you win, then you annex BEL again, OR you get the London Treaty.
Well, you could add the trigger NOT = { desperation = { country = BEL data = 30 }} to the londen treaty, and make it persisten until slept Then it will only fire if Belgiums owns 70% or more of their territory, and if it fires it should sleep the Dutch victory event, and if the dutch victory event fires the London treaty should be slept... I think that it will be quite hard for the Dutch AI to control 30 percent of the Belgium territory before the London treaty will fire, however, if it would be too easy when you are trying you could turn it to 40 or even 50 (though I think occupying 50% of Belgium befoere the London treaty fires would be impossible for a human player too), also as I said before the province demands in the annexation event should be replaced by a desperation = {country = BEL data = 100}
Then it will only fire if Belgiums owns 70% or more of their territory, and if it fires it should sleep the Dutch victory event, and if the dutch victory event fires the London treaty should be slept... I think that it will be quite hard for the Dutch AI to control 30 percent of the Belgium territory before the London treaty will fire, however, if it would be too easy when you are trying you could turn it to 40 or even 50 (though I think occupying 50% of Belgium befoere the London treaty fires would be impossible for a human player too), also as I said before the province demands in the annexation event should be replaced by a desperation = {country = BEL data = 100}
I think both of these are rather too hard to set off. You'd have to do an awful lot of damage to Belgium even to get the 30%. I've had the entire country conquered and only had 15% war exhaustion.Strategist said:
Generalissimo, maybe you want to edit the event? Many of these things are rather beyond my capacity.
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