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Francis II said:
Do you think putting in something about the twenty-year lease and adding another event in twenty years would fix that problem?

That would be fine, I suppose, making an event twenty years later and adding a little phrase or two. Other than that, another reason I made that last post was to try and showcase that the railroad was an expensive affair, so maybe the numbers involved should be a bit higher (can't really remember
which conversion rate we were using in VIP, but there are several events that use it...)

That being the case, I'd make the following suggestions (forgive me if I'm going over this a bit too fast...)...

-The railroad itself should appear in 1855 (using a separate event that would be slept if the treaty is denied or the U.S. doesn't care).

-As a condition for the first event, CLM should exist and the USA should not be at war with it (strange things happen in this game).

-Finally, once the railroad is built, though this may be added later on since it's a little bit more complex, Colombia and the US (more the later than the earlier) should get periodic events (say, every 5-10 years) in which they receive benefits from the railroad (so that the high investment and taking advantage of the events are worth it), provided that they are not at war with each other.
 

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Scythe said:
That would be fine, I suppose, making an event twenty years later and adding a little phrase or two. Other than that, another reason I made that last post was to try and showcase that the railroad was an expensive affair, so maybe the numbers involved should be a bit higher (can't really remember
which conversion rate we were using in VIP, but there are several events that use it...)

That being the case, I'd make the following suggestions (forgive me if I'm going over this a bit too fast...)...

-The railroad itself should appear in 1855 (using a separate event that would be slept if the treaty is denied or the U.S. doesn't care).

-As a condition for the first event, CLM should exist and the USA should not be at war with it (strange things happen in this game).

-Finally, once the railroad is built, though this may be added later on since it's a little bit more complex, Colombia and the US (more the later than the earlier) should get periodic events (say, every 5-10 years) in which they receive benefits from the railroad (so that the high investment and taking advantage of the events are worth it), provided that they are not at war with each other.


Aren't we generally using JRaup's suggestion of 1/500th of the real cost? Thus £40,000 would be the final cost. Maybe spread over the several events.

Also, if benefit events come later, they should also be a possibility of a bad event, too. Perhaps the Watermelon War might erupt?

BTW: I think 304230 - 304236 are being used by some of my aviation events. But starting with 304240 to 304289, these should be free.
 

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Scythe said:
The railroad itself should appear in 1855 (using a separate event that would be slept if the treaty is denied or the U.S. doesn't care).

Seems reasonable, and easy enough to do.

Scythe said:
-As a condition for the first event, CLM should exist and the USA should not be at war with it (strange things happen in this game).

Good point.

Scythe said:
-Finally, once the railroad is built, though this may be added later on since it's a little bit more complex, Colombia and the US (more the later than the earlier) should get periodic events (say, every 5-10 years) in which they receive benefits from the railroad (so that the high investment and taking advantage of the events are worth it), provided that they are not at war with each other.

Again, seems doable. I don't know that the US should get any money out of it, or anything else besides what they get in the first place, but CLM definitely should.

aprof said:
Also, if benefit events come later, they should also be a possibility of a bad event, too. Perhaps the Watermelon War might erupt?

This could make for a good event, too. Maybe something like the Prussia-Neuchatel thing, where both sides talk tough, but ultimately no war or anything goes down.

http://www.trainweb.org/panama/runnels.html#watermelon

aprof said:
Aren't we generally using JRaup's suggestion of 1/500th of the real cost? Thus £40,000 would be the final cost. Maybe spread over the several events.

If that's the ratio that's standard here, I'll change it to that.

aprof said:
I think 304230 - 304236 are being used by some of my aviation events. But starting with 304240 to 304289, these should be free.

I'll change them forthwith :)
 

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Nice idea about the Watermelon War, that could be included as a possible event as well.

The Panama Railroad Company (owned by US citizens) made some pretty nice profits, so a percentage of that money (how to estimate that, though?) could reasonably be expected to end up in US coffers...from the 2nd link I posted:

From 1855 to 1898, it made $37,922.655 (after subtracting expenses )
So, after a quick conversion (without specifying any %s yet), that'd be about 7500 every 10 years or 3750 every 5.
For Colombia...maybe 1500 initially in 1846, plus an additional one-time payment of 2000 and further deliveries of 2150 every 10 years or 1075 every 5 (after 1867).
 

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A few comments, based primarily on my (lost) version of the Panama railroad events:

1. The costs should either be tiny (almost non-existent), or they should be huge, but offset by even bigger incomes. The Panama railroad cost a vast amount of money, but remarkably, it was already in the black even before it was completed.
2. The railroad should consist of not one, but at least two events - the first should begin the construction and decrease life sustainability (to reflect the thousands that died of malaria during construction), while the second would then end the construction and boost life sustainability to just a bit above what it was before the decrease.
3. The railroad should add at least two railroad levels, and maybe even three. After all, the Panama railroad was considered one of the engineering marvels of the time.
4. Is it possible in Victoria for the California Gold Rush not to happen? If it is, then the railroad events should be strictly bound to the Gold Rush, because it was the Gold Rush that made people look for a faster way to get from Europe to California, with the railroad being the consequence.
5. All these events should trigger not only for Colombia, but also for Panama (in case it's somehow managed to appear), and for the UCA (they've got a claim on Panama, and any human player will take advantage of that sooner or later), provided of course that they own the province in question.
6. The USA should not be able to veto these events by not offering Colombia that treaty - treaty or no treaty, it wouldn't have been difficult to find private investors in the USA to finance this venture.
 

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Quarto said:
A few comments, based primarily on my (lost) version of the Panama railroad events:

1. The costs should either be tiny (almost non-existent), or they should be huge, but offset by even bigger incomes. The Panama railroad cost a vast amount of money, but remarkably, it was already in the black even before it was completed.
2. The railroad should consist of not one, but at least two events - the first should begin the construction and decrease life sustainability (to reflect the thousands that died of malaria during construction), while the second would then end the construction and boost life sustainability to just a bit above what it was before the decrease.
3. The railroad should add at least two railroad levels, and maybe even three. After all, the Panama railroad was considered one of the engineering marvels of the time.
4. Is it possible in Victoria for the California Gold Rush not to happen? If it is, then the railroad events should be strictly bound to the Gold Rush, because it was the Gold Rush that made people look for a faster way to get from Europe to California, with the railroad being the consequence.
5. All these events should trigger not only for Colombia, but also for Panama (in case it's somehow managed to appear), and for the UCA (they've got a claim on Panama, and any human player will take advantage of that sooner or later), provided of course that they own the province in question.
6. The USA should not be able to veto these events by not offering Colombia that treaty - treaty or no treaty, it wouldn't have been difficult to find private investors in the USA to finance this venture.

Yes, excellent idea to have copies of the events for PNM and UCA. (But possibly easier if they were province owner?)

I especially agree that the railroad should be tied to California Gold Rush. Probably should have an "event = xxx" line in the trigger tied to the California Gold Rush event.
 

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A few comments, based primarily on my (lost) version of the Panama railroad events:

1. The costs should either be tiny (almost non-existent), or they should be huge, but offset by even bigger incomes. The Panama railroad cost a vast amount of money, but remarkably, it was already in the black even before it was completed.

I'd believe that the second option would be preferrable....that was more or less what I was aiming at with the quick calculations I made.

2. The railroad should consist of not one, but at least two events - the first should begin the construction and decrease life sustainability (to reflect the thousands that died of malaria during construction), while the second would then end the construction and boost life sustainability to just a bit above what it was before the decrease.

Agreed...

3. The railroad should add at least two railroad levels, and maybe even three. After all, the Panama railroad was considered one of the engineering marvels of the time.

Yeah, that would really be better than having an experimental railroad or so...

4. Is it possible in Victoria for the California Gold Rush not to happen? If it is, then the railroad events should be strictly bound to the Gold Rush, because it was the Gold Rush that made people look for a faster way to get from Europe to California, with the railroad being the consequence.

Yes, but the Gold Rush should still remain very likely to happen in most games.

5. All these events should trigger not only for Colombia, but also for Panama (in case it's somehow managed to appear), and for the UCA (they've got a claim on Panama, and any human player will take advantage of that sooner or later), provided of course that they own the province in question.

Good point.

6. The USA should not be able to veto these events by not offering Colombia that treaty - treaty or no treaty, it wouldn't have been difficult to find private investors in the USA to finance this venture.

...or even in France... :D
 

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Quarto said:
1. The costs should either be tiny (almost non-existent), or they should be huge, but offset by even bigger incomes. The Panama railroad cost a vast amount of money, but remarkably, it was already in the black even before it was completed.

I agree with Scythe: the second option makes more sense. I raised the cost to £40,000. I'm working on some revenue events to follow, to represent the railroad's profits to USA and CLM (or whomever controls Panama).


Quarto said:
2. The railroad should consist of not one, but at least two events - the first should begin the construction and decrease life sustainability (to reflect the thousands that died of malaria during construction), while the second would then end the construction and boost life sustainability to just a bit above what it was before the decrease.

Hmm...this makes sense, but I think it's starting to add up to too many events. I mean, as amazing as the railroad was, it's only a pre-cursor to the canal, for which I envision at least one malaria event.

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3. The railroad should add at least two railroad levels, and maybe even three. After all, the Panama railroad was considered one of the engineering marvels of the time.

Yeah, I considered that earlier, but I didn't want to give away too much. On the other hand, sense it's going to cost £40,000, I suppose level 3 rails is not unreasonable.

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4. Is it possible in Victoria for the California Gold Rush not to happen? If it is, then the railroad events should be strictly bound to the Gold Rush, because it was the Gold Rush that made people look for a faster way to get from Europe to California, with the railroad being the consequence.

I had originally tied the event to U.S. ownership of San Francisco, but no matter who owns it, the Gold Rush would have inspired trans-continental travel. On the other hand - and this might be just pro-US bias on my part - the gold was discovered by Americans. It had been there under Spanish and Mexican rule for years, and no one found it. It seems to me that US ownership should have something to do with the Railroad and, eventually, the Canal.


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5. All these events should trigger not only for Colombia, but also for Panama (in case it's somehow managed to appear), and for the UCA (they've got a claim on Panama, and any human player will take advantage of that sooner or later), provided of course that they own the province in question.

Yeah, that's a good point.

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6. The USA should not be able to veto these events by not offering Colombia that treaty - treaty or no treaty, it wouldn't have been difficult to find private investors in the USA to finance this venture.

Well, all they'd be vetoing, really, would be US sanction of the event. If Colombia wants to build the railroad anyway, they can certainly do so themselves.
 

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Here's the Panama Railroad events for Colombia. I'll post versions for the UCA and a prematurely independent Panama soon.

################################
# Bidlack’s Treaty by Francis II#
################################

event = {
id = 304240
random = no
country = USA
trigger = { NOT = {
war = { country = CLM country = USA }
}
AND = { exists = CLM }
AND = { province = 1735 data = CLM } #Panama owned by CLM
AND = { province = 518 data = USA } #San Fran. owned by U.S.
}
name = "Bidlack's Treaty"
desc = "The American Ambassador to Bogota, Benjamin Bidlack, acting entirely on his own initiative, signed a treaty with the Colombian government. The treaty would grant to the United States the exclusive right of transit across the Isthmus of Panama. In return, the U.S. guarantees the sovereignty of Colombia over the Isthmus, and the right to buy the railroad in twenty years. The railroad should be completed in two years"
style = 0
date = { day = 12 month = december year = 1846 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1860 }
action_a = {
Name = "Great! Let's see if Colombia will agree."
command = { type = trigger which = 139028 } #Colombian Reaction to Bidlack’s Treaty
command = { type = treasury value = -40000 }
command = { type = resource which = Timber value = -5 }
command = { type = resource which = Steel value = -10 }
command = { type = resource which = Cement value = -10 }
command = { type = resource which = Machine_Parts value = -0.1 }
command = { type = resource which = Lumber value = -5 }
}
action_b = {
Name = "Who cares about Panama?"
command = { type = prestige value = -5 }
command = { type = relation which = CLM value = -50 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 139028 } #Colombian Reaction to Bidlack’s Treaty
command = { type = sleepevent which = 139031 } #WM War: CLM Demands Compensation
command = { type = sleepevent which = 139032 } #WM War: USA Accepts our Compromise
command = { type = sleepevent which = 139033 } #The Panama Railroad Opens (CLM)
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304241 } #The Panama Railroad
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304242 } #The Panama Railroad Rejected
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304243 } #The Panama Railroad Opens (USA)
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304244 } #The Watermelon Incident
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304245 } #WM War: CLM Proposes a Compromise
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304246 } #WM War: CLM Pays Compensation
}
}

###############################################
# Colombian Reaction to Bidlack’s Treaty by Francis II #
###############################################

event = {
id = 139028
random = no
country = CLM
#Triggered by USA Event 304240A

name = "The United States Proposes a Treaty."
desc = "The Ambassador from the United States has proposed a treaty that would give them exclusive rights to transit across the Isthmus of Panama, while guaranteeing our sovereignty there. We would have the right to buy the railroad from them in twenty years. Should we accept their terms?"
picture = default
action_a = {
Name = "Yes! Sign the treaty."
command = { type = trigger which = 304241 } #The Panama Railroad
command = { type = access which = USA }
command = { type = treasury value = 1000 }
command = { type = life_sustainability which = 1735 value = 5 when = 0 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304242 } #The Panama Railroad Rejected
}
action_b = {
Name = "No! We must stand against Yankee imperialism!"
command = { type = trigger which = 304242 } #The Panama Railroad Rejected
command = { type = relation which = USA value = -100 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304241 } #The Panama Railroad
command = { type = pop_militancy which = capitalists value = 1 where = 1735 }
}
}

###################################
# The Panama Railroad by Francis II #
###################################

event = {
id = 304241
random = no
country = USA
#Triggered by CLM Event 139028A

name = "Colombia Accepts the Treaty"
desc = "Colombia has agreed to the Bidlack Treaty."
picture = default
action_a = {
Name = "OK"
command = { type = relation which = CLM value = 10 }
}
}
#########################################
# The Panama Railroad Rejected by Francis II#
#########################################

event = {
id = 304242
random = no
country = USA
#Triggered by CLM Event 139028B

name = "Colombia Rejects the Treaty"
desc = "Colombia has rejected the Bidlack Treaty."
picture = default
action_a = {
Name = "Oh well."
command = { }
}
}


############################################
# The Panama Railroad Opens (USA) by Francis II #
############################################

event = {
id = 304243
random = no
country = USA
trigger = {
event = 304231
NOT = { war = { country = CLM country = USA }
}
name = "The Panama Railroad Opens for Business"
desc = "Although it took much longer to complete than originally imagined, the Panama Railroad is finally open. We should begin to see revenue from it soon."
picture = default
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1855 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
action_a = {
Name = "Ok."
}
}



############################################
# The Panama Railroad Opens (CLM) by Francis II #
############################################
event = {
id = 139033
random = no
country = CLM
trigger = {
event = 304231
NOT = { war = { country = CLM country = USA }
}
name = "The Panama Railroad Opens for Business"
desc = "Although it took much longer to complete than originally imagined, the Americans have finally completed the Panama Railroad. We should begin to see revenue from it soon."
picture = default
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1855 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
action_a = {
Name = "Ok."
command = { type = railroad which = 1735 value = 3 }
}
}
 
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Here's for Panama

########################################
# Bidlack’s Treaty (USA-PNM) by Francis II #
########################################

event = {
id = 304246
random = no
country = USA
trigger = { NOT = {
war = { country = PNM country = USA }
}
AND = { exists = PNM }
AND = { province = 1735 data = PNM } #Panama owned by PNM
AND = { province = 518 data = USA } #San Francisco owned by U.S.
}
name = "Bidlack's Treaty"
desc = "The American Ambassador to Panama, Benjamin Bidlack, acting entirely on his own initiative, signed a treaty with the Panamanian government. The treaty would grant to the United States the exclusive right of transit across the Isthmus of Panama. In return, the U.S. guarantees the sovereignty of Panama over the Isthmus, and the right to buy the railroad in twenty years. The railroad should be completed in two years"
style = 0
date = { day = 12 month = december year = 1846 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1860 }
action_a = {
Name = "Great! Let's see if Panama will agree."
command = { type = trigger which = 243001 } #Panamanian Reaction to Bidlack’s Treaty
command = { type = treasury value = -40000 }
command = { type = resource which = Timber value = -5 }
command = { type = resource which = Steel value = -10 }
command = { type = resource which = Cement value = -10 }
command = { type = resource which = Machine_Parts value = -0.1 }
command = { type = resource which = Lumber value = -5 }
}
action_b = {
Name = "Who cares about Panama?"
command = { type = prestige value = -5 }
command = { type = relation which = PNM value = -50 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 243001 } #Panamanian Reaction to Bidlack’s Treaty
command = { type = sleepevent which = 243002 } #The Panama Railroad Opens (PNM)
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304247 } #The Panama Railroad
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304248 } #The Panama Railroad Rejected
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304249 } #The Panama Railroad Opens (USA)
}
}

################################################
# Panamanian Reaction to Bidlack’s Treaty by Francis II #
################################################

event = {
id = 243001
random = no
country = PNM
#Triggered by USA 304246A

name = "The United States Proposes a Treaty."
desc = "The Ambassador from the United States has proposed a treaty that would give them exclusive rights to transit across the Isthmus of Panama, while guaranteeing our sovereignty there. We would have the right to buy the railroad from them in twenty years. Should we accept their terms?"
picture = default
action_a = {
Name = "Yes! Sign the treaty."
command = { type = trigger which = 304247 } #The Panama Railroad
command = { type = access which = USA }
command = { type = treasury value = 1000 }
command = { type = life_sustainability which = 1735 value = 5 when = 0 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304248 } #The Panama Railroad Rejected
}
action_b = {
Name = "No! We must stand against Yankee imperialism!"
command = { type = trigger which = 304248 } #The Panama Railroad Rejected
command = { type = relation which = USA value = -100 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304247 } #The Panama Railroad
command = { type = pop_militancy which = capitalists value = 1 where = 1735 }
}
}

###########################################
# The Panama Railroad (USA-PNM) by Francis II #
###########################################

event = {
id = 304247
random = no
country = USA
#Triggered by PNM 243001A

name = "Panama Accepts the Treaty"
desc = "Panama has agreed to the Bidlack Treaty."
picture = default
action_a = {
Name = "OK"
command = { type = relation which = PNMvalue = 10 }
}
}
#################################################
# The Panama Railroad Rejected (USA-PNM) by Francis II #
#################################################

event = {
id = 304248
random = no
country = USA
#Triggered by PNM 243001B

name = "Panama Rejects the Treaty"
desc = "Panama has rejected the Bidlack Treaty."
picture = default
action_a = {
Name = "Oh well."
command = { }
}
}


###############################################
# The Panama Railroad Opens (USA-PNM) by Francis II #
###############################################

event = {
id = 304249
random = no
country = USA
trigger = {
event = 304231
NOT = { war = { country = PNM country = USA }
}
name = "The Panama Railroad Opens for Business"
desc = "Although it took much longer to complete than originally imagined, the Panama Railroad is finally open. We should begin to see revenue from it soon."
picture = default
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1855 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
action_a = {
Name = "Ok."
}
}



################################################
# The Panama Railroad Opens (USA-PNM) by Francis II #
################################################
event = {
id = 243002
random = no
country = PNM
trigger = {
event = 304231
NOT = { war = { country = PNM country = USA }
}
name = "The Panama Railroad Opens for Business"
desc = "Although it took much longer to complete than originally imagined, the Americans have finally completed the Panama Railroad. We should begin to see revenue from it soon."
picture = default
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1855 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
action_a = {
Name = "Ok."
command = { type = railroad which = 1735 value = 3 }
}
}
 
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...and for the UCA:

########################################
# Bidlack’s Treaty (USA-UCA) by Francis II #
########################################

event = {
id = 304250
random = no
country = USA
trigger = { NOT = {
war = { country = UCA country = USA }
}
AND = { exists = UCA }
AND = { province = 1735 data = UCA } #Panama owned by UCA
AND = { province = 518 data = USA } #San Francisco owned by U.S.
}
name = "Bidlack's Treaty"
desc = "The American Ambassador to the UCA, Benjamin Bidlack, acting entirely on his own initiative, signed a treaty with the Central American government. The treaty would grant to the United States the exclusive right of transit across the Isthmus of Panama. In return, the U.S. guarantees the sovereignty of Panama over the Isthmus, and the right to buy the railroad in twenty years. The railroad should be completed in two years"
style = 0
date = { day = 12 month = december year = 1846 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1860 }
action_a = {
Name = "Great! Let's see if the UCA will agree."
command = { type = trigger which = 301020 } #Central American Reaction to Bidlack’s Treaty
command = { type = treasury value = -40000 }
command = { type = resource which = Timber value = -5 }
command = { type = resource which = Steel value = -10 }
command = { type = resource which = Cement value = -10 }
command = { type = resource which = Machine_Parts value = -0.1 }
command = { type = resource which = Lumber value = -5 }
}
action_b = {
Name = "Who cares about Panama?"
command = { type = prestige value = -5 }
command = { type = relation which = UCA value = -50 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 301020 } #Central American Reaction to Bidlack’s Treaty
command = { type = sleepevent which = 301021 } #The Panama Railroad Opens (UCA)
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304251 } #The Panama Railroad
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304252 } #The Panama Railroad Rejected
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304253 } #The Panama Railroad Opens (USA)
}
}

####################################################
# Central American Reaction to Bidlack’s Treaty by Francis II #
####################################################

event = {
id = 301020
random = no
country = UCA
#Triggered by USA 304250A

name = "The United States Proposes a Treaty."
desc = "The Ambassador from the United States has proposed a treaty that would give them exclusive rights to transit across the Isthmus of Panama, while guaranteeing our sovereignty there. We would have the right to buy the railroad from them in twenty years. Should we accept their terms?"
picture = default
action_a = {
Name = "Yes! Sign the treaty."
command = { type = trigger which = 304251 } #The Panama Railroad
command = { type = access which = USA }
command = { type = treasury value = 1000 }
command = { type = life_sustainability which = 1735 value = 5 when = 0 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304252 } #The Panama Railroad Rejected
}
action_b = {
Name = "No! We must stand against Yankee imperialism!"
command = { type = trigger which = 304252 } #The Panama Railroad Rejected
command = { type = relation which = USA value = -100 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304251 } #The Panama Railroad
command = { type = pop_militancy which = capitalists value = 1 where = 1735 }
}
}

###########################################
# The Panama Railroad (USA-UCA) by Francis II #
###########################################

event = {
id = 304251
random = no
country = USA
#Triggered by UCA 301020A

name = "Central America Accepts the Treaty"
desc = "Central America has agreed to the Bidlack Treaty."
picture = default
action_a = {
Name = "OK"
command = { type = relation which = UCAvalue = 10 }
}
}
#################################################
# The Panama Railroad Rejected (USA-UCA) by Francis II #
#################################################

event = {
id = 304252
random = no
country = USA
#Triggered by UCA 301020B

name = "Central America Rejects the Treaty"
desc = " Central America has rejected the Bidlack Treaty."
picture = default
action_a = {
Name = "Oh well."
command = { }
}
}


################################################
# The Panama Railroad Opens (USA-UCA) by Francis II #
################################################

event = {
id = 304253
random = no
country = USA
trigger = {
event = 304231
NOT = { war = { country = UCA country = USA }
}
name = "The Panama Railroad Opens for Business"
desc = "Although it took much longer to complete than originally imagined, the Panama Railroad is finally open. We should begin to see revenue from it soon."
picture = default
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1855 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
action_a = {
Name = "Ok."
}
}



################################################
# The Panama Railroad Opens (USA-UCA) by Francis II #
################################################
event = {
id = 301021
random = no
country = UCA
trigger = {
event = 304231
NOT = { war = { country = UCA country = USA }
}
name = "The Panama Railroad Opens for Business"
desc = "Although it took much longer to complete than originally imagined, the Americans have finally completed the Panama Railroad. We should begin to see revenue from it soon."
picture = default
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1855 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
action_a = {
Name = "Ok."
command = { type = railroad which = 1735 value = 3 }
}
}
 
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Francis II said:
Is that the best way to do this, or is there some way I can write the event to fill in the name of whichever country owns the province?

If the description, trigger conditions and effects are broad enough you could make one event fire for the owner of the province with...

Code:
event = {
	id = 396xxx
	random = no
	province = xxx

The "396xxx" series in the "id = " line is the number range for 'province-owner' events. The "province = xxx" would need to have the province ID inserted. :)

The rest of the event lines would be the same.
 

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aprof said:
If the description, trigger conditions and effects are broad enough you could make one event fire for the owner of the province

Well, in that case I'll change USA 304023 to:

############################################
# The Panama Railroad Opens (USA) by Francis II #
############################################

event = {
id = 304243
random = no
country = USA
trigger = {
event = 304231
NOT = { war = { country = CLM country = USA }
}
name = "The Panama Railroad Opens for Business"
desc = "Although it took much longer to complete than originally imagined, the Panama Railroad is finally open. Many thousands of laborers died in the construction of this marvel of modern transportation. This railroad link across the continent at its narrowest point will shave months off of the journey from New York to San Francisco. We should begin to see revenue from it soon."
picture = default
date = { day = 28 month = january year = 1855 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
action_a = {
Name = "Ok."
command = { type = trigger which = 396100 }
}
}


and replace CLM 139033, PNM 243002, and UCA 306021 with this:

###################################################
# The Panama Railroad Opens (Province Owner) by Francis II #
###################################################
event = {
id = 396100
random = no
province = 1735

name = "The Panama Railroad Opens for Business"
desc = " Although it took much longer to complete than originally imagined, the Americans have finally completed the Panama Railroad. Many thousands of laborers died in the construction of this marvel of modern transportation. This railroad link across the continent at its narrowest point will bring many travelers to our country. We should begin to see revenue from it soon."
picture = default
date = { day = 28 month = january year = 1855 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
action_a = {
Name = "Ok."
command = { type = railroad which = 1735 value = 3 }
}
}

No sense in wasting event numbers if we don't have to.
 
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############################################
# The Panama Railroad Opens (USA) by Kyle ‘Francis II’ Sammin #
############################################

event = {
id = 304243
random = no
country = USA
trigger = {
event = 304231
NOT = { war = { country = CLM country = USA }
}
NOT = { war = { country = PNM country = USA }
}
NOT = { war = { country = UCA country = USA }
}
name = "The Panama Railroad Opens for Business"
desc = "Although it took much longer to complete than originally imagined, the Panama Railroad is finally open. Many thousands of laborers died in the construction of this marvel of modern transportation. This railroad link across the continent at its narrowest point will shave months off of the journey from New York to San Francisco. We should begin to see revenue from it soon."
picture = default
date = { day = 28 month = january year = 1855 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
action_a = {
Name = "Ok."
command = { type = trigger which = 396100 }
}
}
 

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Scythe said:
That's the idea, it could also be summarized easily like this, as part of one big "NOT" condition

Yeah, that's true. I'm new to event-writing, so you'll have to forgive some odd syntax. :) Anyway, here's some events for the Watermelon Riot (or War, depending how it goes) for everyone's consideration:

####################################
# The Watermelon Incident by Kyle ‘Francis II’ Sammin #
####################################
event = {
id = 304244
random = no
country = USA
trigger = {
event = 304023
owned = { province = 1735 data = CLM }
NOT = {
war = { country = CLM country = USA }
}
}
name = "The Watermelon Incident"
desc = "The gold rush and the railroad brought the forty-niners to the Isthmus. They tended to be an unruly lot and were usually bored as they waited for a ship to California. The prospectors were also frequently drunk and often armed. One such traveler took a piece of fruit from a vendor in Colon and refused to pay. The crowd took sides, and a riot broke out, and men on both sides were killed. American lives and property were lost. Should we demand compensation from Colombia?"
picture = default
date = { day = 15 month = april year = 1856 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
action_a = {
Name = "They'll pay..."
command = { type = trigger which = 139031 }
}
action_b = {
Name = "Let it go."
command = { type = prestige value = -5 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 139031 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 139032 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304245 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304246 }
}
}
####################################################
# Watermelon War: The US Demands Compensation by Kyle ‘Francis II’ Sammin #
####################################################

event = {
id = 139031
random = no
country = CLM
#triggered by USA 304244A
name = "The USA Demands Compensation"
desc = "The gold rush and the railroad brought the forty-niners to the Isthmus. They tended to be an unruly lot and were usually bored as they waited for a ship to California. The prospectors were also frequently drunk and often armed. One such traveler took a piece of fruit from a vendor in Colon and refused to pay. The crowd took sides, and a riot broke out, and men on both sides were killed. American lives and property were lost. Now the U.S. is demanding that we compensate them for the damages. Should we do so?"
picture = default
date = { day = 15 month = april year = 1856 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
action_a = {
Name = "Let’s just apologize – no money"
command = { type = trigger which = 304245 }
command = { type = relation which = USA value = -20 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304246 }
}
action_b = {
Name = "All right, we'll pay."
command = { type = treasury value = -10000 }
command = { type = trigger which = 304246 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 304245 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 139032 }
}
}


##################################################
# Watermelon War: CLM Proposes a Compromise by Kyle ‘Francis II’ Sammin #
##################################################

event = {
id = 304245
random = no
country = USA
#triggered by CLM 139031A
name = "Colombia Proposes a Compromise"
desc = "Colombia has refused to compensate us. Should we let the matter pass, in the interest of good relations, or should we force them to pay?"
picture = default
date = { day = 15 month = april year = 1856 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
action_a = {
Name = "We let it go - this time."
command = { type = trigger which = 139032 }
}
action_b = {
Name = "We'll make them listen!"
command = { type = war which = CLM }
}
}


###############################################
# Watermelon War: CLM Pays Compensation by Kyle ‘Francis II’ Sammin #
###############################################

event = {
id = 304246
random = no
country = USA
#triggered by CLM 139031B
name = "Colombia Agrees to Pay"
desc = "Colombia has agreed to pay us just compensation."
picture = default
date = { day = 15 month = april year = 1856 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
action_a = {
Name = "Good, we deserve it."
command = { type = treasury value = 10000 }
}
}


##################################################
# Watermelon War: USA Accepts our Compromise by Kyle ‘Francis II’ Sammin #
##################################################

event = {
id = 139032
random = no
country = CLM
name = "The US Accepts our Compromise"
desc = "Our compromise is accepted - peace reigns in the isthmus."
picture = default
date = { day = 15 month = april year = 1856 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1880 }
action_a = {
Name = "Whew! Nobody wants a war."
command = { }
}
}

I imagine I'll make copies for PNM and UCA, like for the railroad events
 

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Isnt 10000 a bit much? When you can buy all sonara for 100000.
Is the watermelonincident that expensive for colombia?

Was it a real war? USA goes to war for everything :)