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Will do Aprof on the white . I did find a logic hole in those events last night that I want to fix. We probably need to talk about parties in NIC as well. I've seen references calling them the Legitimist and Democrats instead of the default "partido's". It's being a bit nitpicky but I figure if we're going to do this right then we should at least discuss it.
 

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Originally posted by Histogram
Will do Aprof on the white . I did find a logic hole in those events last night that I want to fix. We probably need to talk about parties in NIC as well. I've seen references calling them the Legitimist and Democrats instead of the default "partido's". It's being a bit nitpicky but I figure if we're going to do this right then we should at least discuss it.

If you have sources for the party names in their original language, in this case Spanish, please use them. I'm not sure what other's think, but I personally like localized party names a lot more.
 

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UCA Events

I have been looking over the UCA events included with the game and what is needed to fix them and make them run more properly.

First off after the "Dissolution of United Central America" event fires (ID=15200) (+10 militancy and Consciousness to pops). the following nations get "National Revival" events that counter the +10 to MIL and CON. Nicaragua, ElSalvador, Honduras, Costa Rica.
Notice that Guatemala does not get one of these events?
This is because the capital of the UCA was Guatemala City and when the member states broke away the UCA ceased to exist and became guatemala for all intents and purposes.

secondly there are two follow up events for the UCA.

"The UCA Survives" ID#15201
This event triggers if NONE of the member nations exist between 1850-1852. the event then counters the +10 to MIL and CON.

"The Death of the Central American Union"ID#15202
This event triggers if ALL of the member nations (Honduras, ElSalvador, Costa Rica, Nicaragua) exist at the same time between 1837 and 1852. This then give the UCA the choice of becoming Guatemala (-10 to CON and MIL) or staying the UCA (-5 to CON and MIL).

Now what can happen is that the UCA is able to keep a few of the member nations from forming, but usually can't keep them all under control. This then will never cause eaither of the follow up events to fire which leaves the UCA with its +10 to MIL and CON and a Guatemala forms without Guatemala City as it's capital.

I would propose the following fixes:

Guatemala-GUA is not a revolter until 1853.

ID#15202, which only happens when all of the member nations have broken away should not have the option to stay the UCA. IF you manage to let all 4 of the revolters form then there would really be no other way to go but to become Guatemala.

A new event needs to be created
ID#15203 ?
This event will trigger between 1850-1852
if the UCA exists and any one of the member nations has been able to break away.
This event would give the option of becoming Guatemala or staying the UCA. and would include the counters to MIL and CON so that there is always a counter to the intital -10 and the UCA is not stuck with them forever.

What do you think?

Late,
Jester
 

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aprof said:
Happy B-day irishpony!

Thanks you guys :) little late i searched for my birthday thread in ot to no avail but knew someone remembered :p

anyway about those events... i have poor attention span so its up in the air wether ill finish them or not soo...
 

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irishpony said:
Thanks you guys :) little late i searched for my birthday thread in ot to no avail but knew someone remembered :p

anyway about those events... i have poor attention span so its up in the air wether ill finish them or not soo...

That's okay. I've tried writing some event scripts and they are about as simple to do as OOB and leader scripts - just a larger list of commands.
I'll get around to working on them myself.

And Happy Birthday!
 

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Some minor events for the UCA and its various successor states.

Not yet included: event IDs; tech ID; values for capitalists, aristocrats, RGO level change.

Code:
[color=white]

### UCA and Successor States Event 1 - by aprof ###

event = {
               id =
               random = no
               country = UCA

               name = "Investment from the USA"
               desc = "The United Fruit Company has invested a large amount of money in the nation, by improving the port facilities, building railroads and expanding plantations."

               style = 0
               trigger = {
                                exists = UCA
                                technology =   #Railroad level 1
                                }

               date = {day = 1 month = january year = 1899 }
               offset = 30
               deathdate = {day = 30 month = december year = 1902 }

               action_a = {
                                   name = "OK"
                                   
                                   command = { type = railroad which = -1 value = 1 }
                                   command = { type = railroad which = -1 value = 1 }
                                   command = { type = production_modifier which = fruit value = }
                                   command = { type = capitalist_bonus value =  } 
                                   command = { type = aristocrat_bonus value = }
                                   }
}
[/color]

Code:
[color=white]

### UCA and Successor States Event 2 - by aprof ###

event = {
               id =
               random = no
               country = HON

               name = "Investment from the USA"
               desc = "The United Fruit Company has invested a large amount of money in the nation, by improving the port facilities, building railroads and expanding plantations."

               style = 
               trigger = {
                                exists = HON
                                technology =   #Railroad level 1
                                }

               date = {day = 1 month = january year = 1899 }
               offset = 30
               deathdate = {day = 30 month = december year = 1902 }

               action_a = {
                                   name = "OK"
                                   
                                   command = { type = railroad which = -1 value = 1 }
                                   command = { type = production_modifier which = fruit value = }
                                   command = { type = capitalist_bonus value =  } 
                                   command = { type = aristocrat_bonus value = }
                                   }
}
[/color]

I hope to get more events posted by New Year's.
 

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Most recent versions of some events for the UCA and Successor states to give a slight boost to their economies.

Code:
 [color=white]
### UCA and Successor States Event 1 - by aprof ###

event = {
               id = 301001
               random = no
               country = UCA

               name = "Investment from the USA"
               desc = "The United Fruit Company has invested a large amount of money in the nation by improving the port facilities, building railroads and expanding plantations."

               style = 0
               trigger = {
                                exists = UCA
                                technology = 5301 #Railroad level 1
                                }

               date = {day = 1 month = january year = 1899 }
               offset = 30
               deathdate = {day = 30 month = december year = 1902 }

               action_a = {
                                   name = "OK"
                                   
                                   command = { type = railroad which = -1 value = 1 }
                                   command = { type = railroad which = -1 value = 1 }
                                   command = { type = production_modifier which = orchard value = 6}
                                   command = { type = capitalist_bonus value = 1 } 
                                   command = { type = aristocrat_bonus value = 1 }
                                   }
}
[/color]

Code:
[color=white]
### UCA and Successor States Event 2 - by aprof ###

event = {
               id = 178001
               random = no
               country = HON

               name = "The United Fruit Company"
               desc = "The United Fruit Company has invested a large amount of money in the nation, by improving the port facilities, building railroads and expanding plantations."

               style = 0
               trigger = {
                                exists = HON
                                NOT = {exists = UCA }
                                technology = 5301 #Railroad level 1
                                }

               date = {day = 1 month = january year = 1898 }
               offset = 30
               deathdate = {day = 30 month = december year = 1902 }

               action_a = {
                                   name = "OK"
                                   
                                   command = { type = railroad which = -1 value = 1 }
                                   command = { type = production_modifier which = orchard value = 3 }
                                   command = { type = capitalist_bonus value = 1 } 
                                   command = { type = aristocrat_bonus value = 1 }
                                   }
}
[/color]

Code:
[color=white]
### UCA and Successor States Event 3 - by aprof ###

event = {
               id = 167001
               random = no
               country = GUA

               name = "Investment from the USA"
               desc = "The United Fruit Company has invested a large amount of money in the nation, by improving the port facilities, building railroads and expanding plantations."

               style = 0
               trigger = {
                                exists = GUA
                                NOT = {exists = UCA }
                                technology = 5301 #Railroad level 1
                                }

               date = {day = 1 month = january year = 1897 }
               offset = 30
               deathdate = {day = 30 month = december year = 1900 }

               action_a = {
                                   name = "OK"

                                   command = { type = railroad which = -1 value = 1 }                                   
                                   command = { type = production_modifier which = orchard value = 3 } 
                                   command = { type = capitalist_bonus value = 1 }
                                   command = { type = aristocrat_bonus value = 1 }
                                   }
}
[/color]

Code:
[color=white]

### UCA and Successor States Event 4 - by aprof ###

event = {
               id = 230001
               random = no
               country = NIC

               name = "Outside Investment"
               desc = "The government has made overtures to the governments of Germany and Japan, offering options for a trans-isthmian canal via Rio San Juan and Lake Managua in return for increased investment."

               style = 0
               trigger = {
                                exists = NIC
                                NOT = {exists = UCA }
                                technology = 5302 #Railroad level 2
                                }

               date = {day = 1 month = january year = 1899 }
               offset = 30
               deathdate = {day = 30 month = december year = 1903 }

               action_a = {
                                   name = "OK"
                                   
                                   command = { type = relation which = GER value = 20 }
                                   command = { type =  relation which = NIP value = 20  }
                                   command = { type = production_modifier which = orchard value = 3 } 
                                   command = { type = capitalist_bonus value = 1 }
                                   command = { type = aristocrat_bonus value = 1 }
                                   }
}
[/color]

Code:
[color=white]

### UCA and Successor States Event 5 - by aprof ###

event = {
               id = 301002
               random = no
               country = UCA

               name = "Coffee"
               desc = "The development of coffee as an export crop has been a boon to our nation."

               style = 0
               trigger = {
                                exists = UCA
                                NOT = {exists = ELS }
                                technology = 5301 #Railroad level 1
                                }

               date = {day = 1 month = january year = 1875 }
               offset = 90
               deathdate = {day = 30 month = december year = 1900 }

               action_a = {
                                   name = "OK"
                                   
                                   command = { type = production_modifier which = coffee_plantation value = 6 } 
                                   command = { type = capitalist_bonus value = 2 }
                                   command = { type = aristocrat_bonus value = 2 }
                                   command = { type = pop_consciousness which = farmers value = -1 }
                                   command = { type = pop_consciousness which = labourers value = -1 }
                                   command = { type = railroad which = -1 value = 1 }
                                   }
}
[/color]

Code:
[color=white]

### UCA and Successor States Event 6 - by aprof ###

event = {
               id = 156001
               random = no
               country = ELS

               name = "The Coffee Republic"
               desc = "The development of coffee as an export crop has been a boon to our nation."

               style = 0
               trigger = {
                                exists = ELS
                                NOT = {exists = UCA }
                                technology = 5301 #Railroad level 1
                                }

               date = {day = 1 month = january year = 1875 }
               offset = 90
               deathdate = {day = 30 month = december year = 1900 }

               action_a = {
                                   name = "OK"
                                   
                                   command = { type = production_modifier which = coffee_plantation value = 6 } 
                                   command = { type = capitalist_bonus value = 2 }
                                   command = { type = aristocrat_bonus value = 2 }
                                   command = { type = pop_consciousness which = farmers value = -1 }
                                   command = { type = pop_consciousness which = labourers value = -1 }
                                   command = { type = railroad which = -1 value = 1 }
                                   }
}
[/color]

Code:
[color=white]

### UCA and Successor States Event 7 - by aprof ###

event = {
               id = 142001
               random = no
               country = COS

               name = "General Tomas Guardia"
               desc = "Rising to power by overthrowing the government and becoming a presidential dictator, Guardia nonetheless promoted internal development and instituted social reforms that placed Costa Rica on the path to democracy."

               style = 0
               trigger = {
                                exists = COS
                                NOT = {exists = UCA }
                                technology = 5301 #Railroad level 1
                                }

               date = {day = 1 month = january year = 1870 }
               offset = 90
               deathdate = {day = 30 month = december year = 1882 }

               action_a = {
                                   name = "Viva Guardia!"
                                   
                                   command = { type = production_modifier which = coffee_plantation value = 8 } 
                                   command = { type = capitalist_bonus value = 1 }
                                   command = { type = aristocrat_bonus value = 1 }
                                   command = { type = pop_consciousness which = farmers value = -1 }
                                   command = { type = pop_consciousness which = labourers value = -1 }
                                   command = { type = pop_militancy which = farmers = -2 }
                                   command = { type = pop_militancy which = labourers = -2 }
                                   command = { type = railroad which = -1 value = 1 }
                                   }
}
[/color]
 

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As soon as you know that all this works (at least that it allows the game to start the scenario ;) ) send them by email.
please, detail in a file the complete list of events using this format:
XXXXXX - Name of the event (by Autor)
to ease the work of updating the ID list.
Also, i do not need to remeber to look at the ID list because you seem to know that... :D
The last thing, we will use one file for every nation, like this:
VIP_NationName.txt
Example:
VIP_Greece
Please follow that.

Thanks!.
:D
 

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Generalisimo said:
As soon as you know that all this works (at least that it allows the game to start the scenario ;) ) send them by email.
please, detail in a file the complete list of events using this format:
XXXXXX - Name of the event (by Autor)
to ease the work of updating the ID list.
Also, i do not need to remeber to look at the ID list because you seem to know that... :D
The last thing, we will use one file for every nation, like this:
VIP_NationName.txt
Example:
VIP_Greece
Please follow that.

Thanks!.
:D

I will. I know that the first four work just fine, and the others should as I've built them off the first scripts. But I want to test these later today. You might have them tomorrow. :)
 

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Did you want to include my Caribbean Alliance event here or in the USA thread?
 

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Aragos said:
Did you want to include my Caribbean Alliance event here or in the USA thread?

Let's add it to the vip_uca.txt file. One more in the Carib files will be quick to track down if some problem occurs, but it would be just one more source of errors in that huge vip_usa.txt file.

Want to post that at Yahoo and I'll add it from there?
 

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aprof said:
Let's add it to the vip_uca.txt file. One more in the Carib files will be quick to track down if some problem occurs, but it would be just one more source of errors in that huge vip_usa.txt file.

Want to post that at Yahoo and I'll add it from there?

Done!
 

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Adding some events to the Filibuster events built off Histogram's two events, but tied into some other historical actions for two more. The COS event builds an army and develops a coalition against Walker, the USA event is a choice to stop the 2nd Walker event or let them go ahead.

Code:
[color=white]
###  Central American Filibusters event 1 by Histogram ###

event = { 
	id = 230101
	random = no
	country = NIC

	trigger = {
		NOT = {
			exists = UCA
		}
 		owned = { province = 1718 data = NIC }
	}
	
	name = "William Walker and His Immortals Invade"
	desc = "William Walker and a small number of filibusters land in Rivas intent on gaining control of the government of Nicaragua."
	style = 0

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1853 }
	offset = 30
        deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1855 }

	action_a = {
		name = "OK"
		command = { type = revolt where = 1718 }
	}
}
[/color]

Code:
[color=white]
###  Central American Filibusters event 2 by Histogram ###

event = { 
	id = 230102
	random = no
	country = NIC

	name = "William Walker Invades Again."
	desc = "Walker and his group of filibusters again seek to gain control of Nicaragua by force of arms."
	style = 0

	date = { day = 10 month = august year = 1857 }
	offset = 1
 
	action_a = {
		name = "OK"
		command = { type = revolt where = 1718 }
	}
}
[/color]

Code:
[color=white]

### Central American Filibusters - event 3 by aprof 
####################################################
event = { 
	id = 142002
	random = no
	country = COS

	trigger = { event = 230101 }
	
	name = "Central American Coalition"
	desc = "The filibusters who are inciting rebellion against the government of Nicaragua must be removed.  They threaten the peace in Central America."

	style = 0

	date = { day = 1 month = july year = 1853 }
	offset = 30
        deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1855 }

	action_a = {
		name = "OK"
		command = { type = alliance which = GUA value = 0 }
		command = { type = alliance which = COS value = 0 }
		command = { type = alliance which = ELS value = 0 }
		command = { type = alliance which = NIC value = 0 } #needed to gain access to end revolt
                command = { type = build_division which = infantry when = 1686 }
	}
}
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Code:
[color=white]

### Central American Filibusters - event 4 by aprof 
####################################################
event = { 
	id = 304017
	random = no
	country = USA

	trigger = {
		NOT = {
			exists = UCA
		}	
                } 
	
	name = "Walker Planning Another Filibuster Expedition"
	desc = "Word from Mobile is that the filibuster gamecock, William Walker, has been organizing for another expedition to gain control of Nicaragua.  Should we stop it?"

	style = 0

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1857 }
	offset = 15
        deathdate = { day = 16 month = july year = 1857 }

	action_a = {
		name = "Let them go."
                command = { type = relation which = NIC value = -5 }
                   }

	action_b = {
		name = "Stop them."
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 142002 }
                   }
}
[/color]

They work, and I think they'll be better at keeping the revolt from the filibuster event at a manageable level in Central America.

Note to all interested in Central American events - we're working closely with the group in the North American thread to coordinate events. Often these ideas are posted in that thread as well.

Look for some Spanish-American War events there soon.
 

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Some ideas for the first reunification effort of the US of Central America.
Code:
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###############################################
###  UCA Reunites by Irishpony adapted by aprof

event = { 
         id = 
         random = no
         country = ELS

         picture = uca

         trigger = { 
                   event = 156002 
                   }

         name = "A Pact of Union"
         desc = "A conference held to discuss the establishment of the United States of Central America has concluded with an informal agreement. Will the National Assembly ratify the charter and join the Union?"
         style = 0

         date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1872 }
         offset = 0
         deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1872 }

         action_a = {
               name = "Si, we will ratify."
               ai_chance = 65
               command = { type = country which = UCA } 
                    }

         action_b = {
               name = "No, we will remain independant."
               ai_chance = 35
               command = { type = sleepevent which = 142002 } #COS joins
               command = { type = sleepevent which = 167002 } #GUA joins
               command = { type = sleepevent which = 178002 } #HON joins
                    }
}

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Code:
[color=white]

###############################################
###  UCA Reunites by Irishpony adapted by aprof

event = { 
         id = 142002
         random = no
         country = COS

         picture = uca

         trigger = { exists = UCA }

         name = "Should We Join the United States of Central America?"
         desc = "A conference held to establish the United States of Central America has concluded with an informal agreement. Will the National Assembly ratify the charter and join the Union?"
         style = 0

         date = { day = 1 month = july year = 1872 }
         offset = 0
         deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1873 }

         action_a = {
               name = "No, we will remain independant."
               ai_chance = 75
               command = { type = sleepevent which = 301005 }
                    }

         action_b = {
               name = "Si, we will ratify."
               ai_chance = 25
               command = { type = trigger which = 301005 } 
                    }
}

[/color]
Code:
[color=white]

###  UCA Reunites by Irishpony adapted by aprof

event = { 
         id = 167002
         random = no
         country = GUA

         picture = uca

         trigger = { exists = UCA }

         name = "Should We Join the United States of Central America?"
         desc = "A conference held to establish the United States of Central America has concluded with an informal agreement. Will the National Assembly ratify the charter and join the Union?"
         style = 0

         date = { day = 1 month = july year = 1872 }
         offset = 0
         deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1873 }

         action_a = {
               name = "No, we will remain independant."
               ai_chance = 75
               command = { type = sleepevent which = 301006 }
                    }

         action_b = {
               name = "Si, we will ratify."
               ai_chance = 25
               command = { type = trigger which = 301006 } 
                    }
}

[/color]
Code:
[color=white]

###  UCA Reunites by Irishpony adapted by aprof

event = { 
         id = 178002
         random = no
         country = HON

         picture = uca

         trigger = { exists = UCA }

         name = "Should We Join the United States of Central America?"
         desc = "A conference held to establish the United States of Central America has concluded with an informal agreement. Will the National Assembly ratify the charter and join the Union?"
         style = 0

         date = { day = 1 month = july year = 1872 }
         offset = 0
         deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1873 }

         action_a = {
               name = "No, we will remain independant."
               ai_chance = 75
               command = { type = sleepevent which = 301007 }
                    }

         action_b = {
               name = "Si, we will ratify."
               ai_chance = 25
               command = { type = trigger which = 301007 } 
                    }
}

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Code:
[color=white]

###  UCA Reunites by Irishpony adapted by aprof

event = { 
         id = 230002
         random = no
         country = NIC

         picture = uca

         trigger = { exists = UCA }

         name = "Should We Join the United States of Central America?"
         desc = "A conference held to establish the United States of Central America has concluded with an informal agreement. Will the National Assembly ratify the charter and join the Union?"
         style = 0

         date = { day = 1 month = july year = 1872 }
         offset = 0
         deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1873 }

         action_a = {
               name = "No, we will remain independant."
               ai_chance = 75
               command = { type = sleepevent which = 301008 }
                    }

         action_b = {
               name = "Si, we will ratify."
               ai_chance = 25
               command = { type = trigger which = 301008 } 
                    }
}

[/color]
Code:
[color=white]

###############################################
###  UCA Reunites by Irishpony adapted by aprof

event = { 
         id = 301005
         random = no
         country = UCA

         picture = uca

         #triggered by 142002 #Costa Rica joins - action_b          
                   
         name = "Costa Rica Joins the Union"
         desc = "The National Assembly of Costa Rica has ratified the Pact of Union and will become a member of the United States of Central America."
         style = 0

         action_a = {
               name = "Bienvenidos"
               command = { type = inherit which = COS } 
                    }
}

[/color]
Code:
[color=white]
###############################################
###  UCA Reunites by Irishpony adapted by aprof

event = { 
         id = 301006
         random = no
         country = UCA

         picture = uca

         #triggered by 167002 #Guatemala joins - action_b          
                   
         name = "Guatemala Joins the Union"
         desc = "The National Assembly of Guatemala has ratified the Pact of Union and will become a member of the United States of Central America."
         style = 0

         action_a = {
               name = "Bienvenidos"
               command = { type = inherit which = GUA } 
                    }
}

[/color]
Code:
[color=white]

###  UCA Reunites by Irishpony adapted by aprof

event = { 
         id = 301007
         random = no
         country = UCA

         picture = uca

         #triggered by 178002 #Honduras joins - action_b          
                   
         name = "Honduras Joins the Union"
         desc = "The National Assembly of Honduras has ratified the Pact of Union and will become a member of the United States of Central America."
         style = 0

         action_a = {
               name = "Bienvenidos"
               command = { type = inherit which = HON } 
                    }
}

[/color]
Code:
[color=white]

###  UCA Reunites by Irishpony adapted by aprof

event = { 
         id = 301008
         random = no
         country = UCA

         picture = uca

         #triggered by 167002 #Nicaragua joins - action_b          
                   
         name = "Nicaragua Joins the Union"
         desc = "The National Assembly of Nicaragua has ratified the Pact of Union and will become a member of the United States of Central America."
         style = 0

         action_a = {
               name = "Bienvenidos"
               command = { type = inherit which = NIC } 
                    }
}
[/color]
 

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A second likely effort at reunification of Central America came in the 1890's. It was stronger in unifying El Salvador, Nicaragua and Honduras, but Costa Rica and Guatemala had a "wait and see" attitude at first.

Code:
[color=white]

#####################################################
###  The Greater Republic of Central America by aprof

event = { 
         id = 156003
         random = no
         country = ELS

         picture = uca

         trigger = { NOT = { exists = UCA } 
                   }

         name = "The Pact of Amapala"
         desc = "An agreement to form the Greater Republic of Central America has resulted in the formation of a new Union - christened the United States of Central America."
         style = 0

         date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1894 }
         offset = 0
         deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1896 }

         action_a = {
               name = "Si, we will ratify."
               ai_chance = 75
               command = { type = country which = UCA } 
               command = { type = trigger which = 178003 } #fires Honduras joins?
               command = { type = trigger which = 230003 } #fires Nicaragua joins?
                    }

         action_b = {
               name = "No, we will remain independant."
               ai_chance = 25
               command = { type = sleepevent which = 142003 } #COS joins
               command = { type = sleepevent which = 167003 } #GUA joins
               command = { type = sleepevent which = 178003 } #HON joins
               command = { type = sleepevent which = 230003 } #NIC joins
               command = { type = sleepevent which = 301009 }  
               command = { type = sleepevent which = 301010 }  
               command = { type = sleepevent which = 301011 }  
               command = { type = sleepevent which = 301012 }  
                    }
}

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Code:
[color=white]

#####################################################
###  The Greater Republic of Central America by aprof

event = { 
         id = 142003
         random = no
         country = COS

         picture = uca

         trigger = { exists = UCA }

         name = "To Join the Greater Republic?"
         desc = "The United States of Central America has proven successful. Shall we join the Union?"
         style = 0

         date = { day = 1 month = july year = 1897 }
         offset = 0
         deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1899 }

         action_a = {
               name = "No, we will remain independant."
               ai_chance = 55
               command = { type = sleepevent which = 301009 }
                    }

         action_b = {
               name = "Si, we will ratify."
               ai_chance = 45
               command = { type = trigger which = 301009 } 
                    }
}

[/color]
Code:
[color=white]

#####################################################
###  The Greater Republic of Central America by aprof 

event = { 
         id = 167003
         random = no
         country = GUA

         picture = uca

         trigger = { exists = UCA }

         name = "To Join the Greater Republic?"
         desc = "The United States of Central America has proven successful.  Shall we join the Union?"
         style = 0

         date = { day = 1 month = july year = 1897 }
         offset = 0
         deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1899 }

         action_a = {
               name = "No, we will remain independant."
               ai_chance = 55
               command = { type = sleepevent which = 301010 }
                    }

         action_b = {
               name = "Si, we will ratify."
               ai_chance = 45
               command = { type = trigger which = 301010 } 
                    }
}

[/color]
Code:
[color=white]

#####################################################
###  The Greater Republic of Central America by aprof

event = { 
         id = 178003
         random = no
         country = HON

         picture = uca

         #triggered by 156003

         name = "To Create a Greater Republic?"
         desc = "Shall we accept the Treaty of Amapala and join the United States of Central America?"
         style = 0

         action_a = {
               name = "Si, we will ratify."
               ai_chance = 75
               command = { type = trigger which = 301011 } 
                    }

         action_b = {
               name = "No, we will remain independant."
               ai_chance = 25
               command = { type = sleepevent which = 301011 }
                    }
}

[/color]
Code:
[color=white]

#####################################################
###  The Greater Republic of Central America by aprof

event = { 
         id = 230003
         random = no
         country = NIC

         picture = uca

         #triggered by 156003

         name = "To Create a Greater Republic?"
         desc = "Shall we accept the Treaty of Amapala and join the United States of Central America?"
         style = 0

         action_a = {
               name = "Si, we will ratify."
               ai_chance = 75
               command = { type = trigger which = 301012 } 
                    }

         action_a = {
               name = "No, we will remain independant."
               ai_chance = 25
               command = { type = sleepevent which = 301012 }
                    }
}

[/color]
Code:
[color=white]

#####################################################
###  The Greater Republic of Central America by aprof
 
event = { 
         id = 301009
         random = no
         country = UCA

         picture = uca

         #triggered by 142003 #Costa Rica joins - action_b          
                   
         name = "Costa Rica Joins the Union"
         desc = "The National Assembly of Costa Rica has ratified the Pact of Union and will become a member of the United States of Central America."
         style = 0

         action_a = {
               name = "Bienvenidos"
               command = { type = inherit which = COS } 
                    }
}

[/color]
Code:
[color=white]

#####################################################
###  The Greater Republic of Central America by aprof

event = { 
         id = 301010
         random = no
         country = UCA

         picture = uca

         #triggered by 167003 #Guatemala joins - action_b          
                   
         name = "Guatemala Joins the Union"
         desc = "The National Assembly of Guatemala has ratified the Pact of Union and will become a member of the United States of Central America."
         style = 0

         action_a = {
               name = "Bienvenidos"
               command = { type = inherit which = GUA } 
                    }
}

[/color]
Code:
[color=white]

#####################################################
###  The Greater Republic of Central America by aprof
 
event = { 
         id = 301011
         random = no
         country = UCA

         picture = uca

         #triggered by 178003 #Honduras joins - action_a          
                   
         name = "Honduras Joins the Union"
         desc = "The National Assembly of Honduras has ratified the Pact of Union and will become a member of the United States of Central America."
         style = 0

         action_a = {
               name = "Bienvenidos"
               command = { type = inherit which = HON } 
                    }
}

[/color]
Code:
[color=white]

#####################################################
###  The Greater Republic of Central America by aprof
 
event = { 
         id = 301012
         random = no
         country = UCA

         picture = uca

         #triggered by 167003 #Nicaragua joins - action_a          
                   
         name = "Nicaragua Joins the Union"
         desc = "The National Assembly of Nicaragua has ratified the Pact of Union and will become a member of the United States of Central America."
         style = 0

         action_a = {
               name = "Bienvenidos"
               command = { type = inherit which = NIC } 
                    }
}
[/color]
 

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I've been thinking that the "UCA Reunites" and "Greater Republic" series of events posted above may be too simplistic as written. For an historical outcome, it would require more events to destroy the reunification attempts. (after all, do you see a UCA today?)

Having events that destroy the UCA wouldn't be so bad, but it doesn't exactly parallel the historical situation. In each case, basically the reunification started but wasn't finally concluded.

I think that the flow would be more accurate if the nations would first form an alliance - representing the informal agreements to form the new UCA. Then if all nations have agreed to join (using a "setflag" command) then a second event comes up after a waiting period. This event will create the new UCA.

If any nation refused, there could be a different event (called by the level of the "setflag" to sleep the "create UCA" event and announce the failure to form the UCA.

Anyone have thoughts or suggestions on this?
 

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aprof said:
I've been thinking that the "UCA Reunites" and "Greater Republic" series of events posted above may be too simplistic as written. For an historical outcome, it would require more events to destroy the reunification attempts. (after all, do you see a UCA today?)

From what I've found, there were two serious attempts to reunite the UCA - the first was an attempted Tripartite Republic between Guatemala, Nicaragua, and El Salvador in 1850 that failed. The next one is an attempted Republic of Central America between Honduras, Nicaragua, and El Salvador, that lasted 1896-1898.

For these you could have a trigger event in Guatemala and Honduras, respectively, which favors the project. For the first one, you have two reaction events that disfavor it, and the Republic only gets created if they all agree. Then maybe a few dissolution events can occur, making it likely that such a project would disintergrate. For the latter, since it did work for two years, you can have the reaction events favor the project, and then make a dissolution event in 1898. In addition to these two smaller projects, a larger UCA reunification idea might be possible if we knew what conditions would have to be in place to make this a reality.

Ok, I'm starting to code some of the ideas I had posted on the NA thread.

Code:
############################################
# Rafael Carrera by Bob 'Mettermrck' Kraus #
############################################
event = { 
id = 167004
random = no
country = GUA
trigger = { event = Guatemala Independence event } #will look up ID

name = "Rafael Carrera"
desc = "A Mestizo with no formal education, Carrera quickly gained the support of the Indian peasantry and the lower clergy, and led a rebellion within the UPCA, and captured Guatemala City, effectively ending the confederation in Central America. Carrera then moved to set up power in the new state, with the backing of conservative and clerical elements in the country."
style = 0

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1836 }
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1845 }

action_a = {
name = "Take power"
command = { type = prestige value = 2 }
command = { type = pop_dominant_issue which = 25 value = moralism }
command = { type = pop_ideology which = 25 value = conservative }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = farmers value = 1 }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = clergy value = 1 }
command = { type = force_ruling_party which = conservative }
}
}

############################################
# Cabanas Crisis by Bob 'Mettermrck' Kraus #
############################################
event = { 
id = 167005
random = no
country = GUA
trigger = {     ruling_party = conservative
		event = 178004
          } #will check for party ID

name = "Cabanas Crisis"
desc = "The rise to power of the liberal Trinidad Cabanas in Honduras frightened its neighbors, who feared the example such a government might become to their own citizens. In reaction, the conservative government of Guatemala contemplated war."
style = 0

action_a = {
name = "Oust Cabanas! Invade Honduras"
command = { type = relation which = HON value = -100 }
command = { type = war which = HON }
command = { type = prestige value = 5 }
}

action_b = {
name = "Too risky - let them be"
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = farmers value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = HON value = 25 }
command = { type = prestige value = -2 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 178005 }
}
}

###############################################
# Transfer of Power by Bob 'Mettermrck' Kraus #
###############################################
event = { 
id = 178004
random = no
country = HON
trigger = { ruling_party = conservatives 
            exists = GUA 
          } # will find party ID

name = "Transfer of Power"
desc = "In 1855, turmoil in Honduras persuaded its President, Juan Lindo, to opt out of another term in office and transfer power to the liberals, headed by Trinidad Cabanas. The move would frighten Honduras' neighbors and cause upheaval in domestic politics."
style = 0

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1855 }
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1857 }
offset = 30

action_a = {
name = "No more terms - hand power to Cabanas"
command = { type = pop_ideology which = 25 value = liberal }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = farmers value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = GUA value = -100 }
command = { type = force_ruling_party which = liberal }
command = { type = trigger which = 167005 }
}

action_b = {
name = "Keep Honduras conservative - remain in office"
command = { type = pop_ideology which = 25 value = conservative }
command = { type = pop_militancy which = farmers value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = GUA value = 25 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 167005 }
}
}

#############################################
# Cabanas Ousted! by Bob 'Mettermrck' Kraus #
#############################################
event = { 
id = 178005
random = no
country = HON
trigger = { event = 167005
            war = { country = GUA country = HON }
            NOT = { control = { province = capital data = HON } } in case one of Guatemala's allies takes the capital; will find ID
          }
            
name = "Cabanas Ousted!"
desc = "With the capture of the capital city, the forces led by Guatemala were able to oust the liberal Cabanas and restore a conservative government to power."
style = 0

action_a = {
name = "A proper government"
command = { type = pop_ideology which = 25 value = conservative }
command = { type = relation which = GUA value = 100 }
command = { type = force_ruling_party which = conservative }
command = { type = peace which = GUA value = 0 }
}
}
 

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Mettermrck said:
From what I've found, there were two serious attempts to reunite the UCA - the first was an attempted Tripartite Republic between Guatemala, Nicaragua, and El Salvador in 1850 that failed. The next one is an attempted Republic of Central America between Honduras, Nicaragua, and El Salvador, that lasted 1896-1898.

For these you could have a trigger event in Guatemala and Honduras, respectively, which favors the project. For the first one, you have two reaction events that disfavor it, and the Republic only gets created if they all agree. Then maybe a few dissolution events can occur, making it likely that such a project would disintergrate. For the latter, since it did work for two years, you can have the reaction events favor the project, and then make a dissolution event in 1898. In addition to these two smaller projects, a larger UCA reunification idea might be possible if we knew what conditions would have to be in place to make this a reality.

I ended up using an alliance situation to form an 'informal' union. Then used setflag and incflag commands to determine if all the participants had agreed to create a 'new' UCA. If they do, then it triggers an event that creates the UCA in ELS and ELS/UCA inherits COS, GUA, HON and NIC. It becomes a fairly good situation - a new UCA won't happen every game this way, but can happen sometimes.


Ok, I'm starting to code some of the ideas I had posted on the NA thread.

These look great, Met. (Do I see a theme of 'presidential changes' in the works?)

I don't recall, did you have the issue of UK control of the Mosquito Coast for HON and NIC in mind for those countries?

Also, Zelaya of NIC in the 1890's was against the growing US influence and turned to Germany (and Japan). Do you have anything in mind for that?
 

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aprof said:
These look great, Met. (Do I see a theme of 'presidential changes' in the works?)

Only a few, namely the ones that caused wars, and certainly not all of them. If I simulated every single revolt or transfer of power in Central America, we'd be talking hundreds of events. :) Each country has a couple of these crises events that'll give it more depth. Not having a map right now, I didn't know if the Mosquito Coast was a separate province or not. I know that in 1860, Nicaragua got the province though it was regarded as autonomous (in which case, I just give it to Nicaragua anyhow). In 1894, Nicaragua fully gained the Coast, which I can just simulate by a little prestige, etc.

No, I didn't know about Zelaya, though that's an option for certain, which we can do with increased relations, maybe an alliance, US reaction, etc.
 

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A few more events. I'm still working on Guatemala's first. The Barrios crisis appears to be almost a carbon copy of the Cabanas one. It appears that Carrera feared anything that was liberal. :) I also did some events about Guatemala's attempts to negotiate over Belize. It gives them a tiny chance to purchase it, though it's unlikely. I would advise putting a British owned trigger for Belize for the Mexican purchase series.

Code:
###########################################################
# British-Guatemalan Convention by Bob 'Mettermrck' Kraus #
###########################################################
event = { 
id = 167006
random = no
country = GUA
trigger = { 
            ruling_party = conservative
          }
            
name = "British-Guatemalan Convention"
desc = "Disputes over the boundaries of British Honduras, and Guatemalan claims on the region prompted negotiations between the British Empire and the conservative government of Rafael Carrera. Carrera hoped to get a similar treaty as Nicaragua had gotten from the Mosquito Coast, which would autonomize the coast while granting Guatemala access to the sea. The British offered a Convention which essentially made British Honduras, or Belize, into a British protectorate."
style = 0

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1849 }
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1860 }
offset = 30

action_a = {
name = "Insist on our rights"
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -25 }
command = { type = prestige value = 1 }
command = { type = trigger which = 157000 }
}

action_a = {
name = "Acquiesce"
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -25 }
command = { type = prestige value = 1 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 157000 }
}
}

##################################################################
# Britain Offers a Boundary Convention by Bob 'Mettermrck' Kraus #
##################################################################
event = { 
id = 167006
random = no
country = GUA
trigger = { 
            event = 157000
          }
            
name = "Britain Offers a Convention"
desc = "Despite Guatemalan protests, the British would not discuss the autonomy of British Honduras and have offered a Convention which specifically defines the boundaries of British lands in the region."
style = 0

action_a = {
name = "What can we do?"
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -25 }
command = { type = prestige value = -2 }
}

action_a = {
name = "No fair! We still claim that land!"
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -100 }
command = { type = prestige value = 5 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1707 }
}
}

#####################################################################
# Britain Offers Sale of British Honduras by Bob 'Mettermrck' Kraus #
#####################################################################
event = { 
id = 167008
random = no
country = GUA
trigger = { 
            event = 157000
          }
            
name = "Britain Offers a Convention"
desc = "In a move which surprised even the government of Guatemala, the British government decided to wash its hands of its interests in British Honduras and has offered it for sale to Guatemala."
style = 0

action_a = {
name = "Of course!"
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = 25 }
command = { type = prestige value = 10 }
command = { type = treasury value = -7500 }
command = { type = receiveprovince which = 1707 }
command = { type = addcore which = 1707 }
}

action_a = {
name = "We can't afford it"
command = { type = prestige value = -5 }
}
}

############################################
# Barrios Crisis by Bob 'Mettermrck' Kraus #
############################################
event = { 
id = 167009
random = no
country = GUA
trigger = {     government = { country = ELS type = liberal }
		event = 156000
		ruling_party = conservative
          }

name = "Barrios Crisis"
desc = "The liberal presidency of Gerardo Barrios of El Salvador worried the conservative government of Guatemala, and there was a loud call for the army to intervene and oust Barrios, who was suspected of wanted to revive the old UCA."
style = 0

action_a = {
name = "Oust Barrios! Invade El Salvador"
command = { type = relation which = ELS value = -100 }
command = { type = war which = ELS }
command = { type = prestige value = 5 }
}

action_b = {
name = "Too risky - let them be"
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = farmers value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = ELS value = 25 }
command = { type = prestige value = -2 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 156016 }
}
}

###########################################################
# British-Guatemalan Convention by Bob 'Mettermrck' Kraus #
###########################################################
event = { 
id = 157000
random = no
country = ENG
trigger = { 
            event = 167006
          }
            
name = "British-Guatemalan Convention"
desc = "With the conservative government of Guatemala insisting on a treaty over the status of British Honduras, the British government contemplated what sort of agreement to offer, whether to define the boundaries of a protectorate, ignore the issue entirely, or possibly even offer the whole territory for sale."
style = 0

action_a = {
name = "Define Belize's boundaries - Convention"
command = { type = relation which = GUA value = -25 }
command = { type = trigger which = 167007 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 167008 }
}

action_b = {
name = "Guatemala annoys us - ignore the issue"
command = { type = relation which = GUA value = -100 }
command = { type = prestige value = 1 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 167007 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 167008 }
}

action_c = {
name = "Wash our hands - offer British Honduras for sale"
command = { type = relation which = GUA value = 100 }
command = { type = trigger which = 167008 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 167007 }
}
}

#############################################
# Gerardo Barrios by Bob 'Mettermrck' Kraus #
#############################################
event = { 
id = 156000
random = no
country = ELS
trigger = {     government = { type = liberal }
          }

name = "Gerardo Barrios"
desc = "Gerardo Barrios was the liberal President of El Salvador in the late 1850s and early 1860s. A supporter of Central American unity, he was also a progressive, and favored modernization and internal reform. His election worried his neighbors, however."
style = 0
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1855 }
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1862 }
offset = 30

action_a = {
name = "We need a Liberal President"
command = { type = relation which = GUA value = -25 }
command = { type = plurality value = 10 }
command = { type = pop_ideology which = 25 value = liberal }
command = { type = literacy value = 0.01 }
}

action_b = {
name = "We prefer a Conservative"
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = farmers value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = GUA value = 25 }
command = { type = pop_ideology which = 25 value = conservative }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 178005 }
command = { type = force_ruling_party which = conservative }
command = { type = pop_consciousness which = farmers value = 1 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 167009 }
}
}

#############################################
# Barrios Ousted! by Bob 'Mettermrck' Kraus #
#############################################
event = { 
id = 156016
random = no
country = ELS
trigger = { event = 167009
            war = { country = GUA country = ELS }
            NOT = { control = { province = capital data = ELS } } in case one of Guatemala's allies takes the capital; will find ID
          }
            
name = "Barrios Ousted!"
desc = "With the capture of San Salvador, the forces led by Guatemala were able to oust the liberal Barrios and restore a conservative government to power."
style = 0

action_a = {
name = "Barrios is out!"
command = { type = pop_ideology which = 25 value = conservative }
command = { type = relation which = GUA value = 100 }
command = { type = force_ruling_party which = conservative }
command = { type = peace which = GUA value = 0 }
}
}