VIP - Balkans

[unmerged(25612)]

The Serbian cores are flawed.

They have a claim on Pola, but it should be Dubrovinik (Makes more sense).


Also any thoughts on events for the case of downfall of Austria in 1848? Independent Croatia? Secession of some lands to Serbia? Event chain giving the Ottomans a chance to attack weakened Austria, but with the possibility of Russia and some other guys intervening??

 

[Generalisimo]

The Serbian cores are flawed.

They have a claim on Pola, but it should be Dubrovinik (Makes more sense).

This was already discussed and i explained it was an event with a wrong ID of a province (the event will be removed now).

Also any thoughts on events for the case of downfall of Austria in 1848? Independent Croatia? Secession of some lands to Serbia? Event chain giving the Ottomans a chance to attack weakened Austria, but with the possibility of Russia and some other guys intervening??

Already implemented:
-Italian revolution
-Hungarian revolution
If both are successfull there is a posibility for a serbian and croatian revolution.
There are plans to add more destructive things later...

 

[unmerged(8581)]

Thank you, Tunch Khan and Quarto for your corrections.

The Hungarian revolution is very complicated and tricky to represent and though the events for it have been very well made, there surely is room for improvement. Also I think that there have been some changes done to it already for the next mod, bit don’t know which ones?

As to the Serbian cores, I gave the possible solution and still am impatiently waiting for the judgement. Generalisimo, OHgamer and all ye gents that work on this mod, could you send us the new changes and the events already approved for the next mod concerning Balkan Peninsula, as well as Hungarian revolution of 1848 (as it concerns Yugoslav provinces as well)? In that way we could see what else needs to be done. I have a lot of ideas and would like to help very much but don’t want to spend hours and hours writing and testing just to find out that it has been done before.

 

[Generalisimo]

Thank you, Tunch Khan and Quarto for your corrections.

The Hungarian revolution is very complicated and tricky to represent and though the events for it have been very well made, there surely is room for improvement. Also I think that there have been some changes done to it already for the next mod, bit don’t know which ones?

As to the Serbian cores, I gave the possible solution and still am impatiently waiting for the judgement. Generalisimo, OHgamer and all ye gents that work on this mod, could you send us the new changes and the events already approved for the next mod concerning Balkan Peninsula, as well as Hungarian revolution of 1848 (as it concerns Yugoslav provinces as well)? In that way we could see what else needs to be done. I have a lot of ideas and would like to help very much but don’t want to spend hours and hours writing and testing just to find out that it has been done before.

well, the changes currently in process are in the following files:
-VIP_Austria
-VIP_Croatia
-VIP_Hungary
-VIP_Serbia

 

[unmerged(8581)]

well, the changes currently in process are in the following files:
-VIP_Austria
-VIP_Croatia
-VIP_Hungary
-VIP_Serbia

How elaborate...

 

[Generalisimo]

How elaborate...

if you want more details, send me a PM with your email... i am not a magician to know it...

 

[unmerged(8581)]

Fair enough!

 

[Taear]

Crete

I'm playing a game as Germany, and during it, the nation of Egypt got severely weakened. So, being the opportunist, I grabbed Crete and Cyprus off the uncivilised Egyptians, and promptly released them as satellite states.

This was all well and good, until the historical greek-ottoman war events started firing, as it gives Crete to greece as a satellite state, even if the province had nothing to do with the war. Is there any way to prevent this occuring? I mean, sure, it's rare that Crete won't be Ottoman/Egyptian at this point, but just incase it is, it's quite irritating for it to work in this way.

 

[OHgamer]

I'm playing a game as Germany, and during it, the nation of Egypt got severely weakened. So, being the opportunist, I grabbed Crete and Cyprus off the uncivilised Egyptians, and promptly released them as satellite states.

This was all well and good, until the historical greek-ottoman war events started firing, as it gives Crete to greece as a satellite state, even if the province had nothing to do with the war. Is there any way to prevent this occuring? I mean, sure, it's rare that Crete won't be Ottoman/Egyptian at this point, but just incase it is, it's quite irritating for it to work in this way.

will fix for 0.4.

in the meantime, add to event 166012 the following line to the trigger

satellite = { country = CRE country = GRE }

that will require Crete be a Greek satellite (which it will become via normal flow of events) and prevent it from firing if some other nation has made it a satellite.

 

[Taear]

will fix for 0.4.

in the meantime, add to event 166012 the following line to the trigger

satellite = { country = CRE country = GRE }

that will require Crete be a Greek satellite (which it will become via normal flow of events) and prevent it from firing if some other nation has made it a satellite.

Ok, thank you.

 

[unmerged(10416)]

Hi y'all! I just played a game through to 1881 and I greatly enjoyed the Crimean War events and the later events between Russia and the OE. They make the game so much more fun!

A few little things caught my eye, though...

- the Treaty of Paris (Russian advantage) event 279045 in VIP_Ottomans.txt is supposed to break the vassalization between Turkey and the Serbs and Romanians have a misspelled event command... it says
command = { type = end_satellite which = xxx }

but in order for it to work, it should say
command = { type = end_satellite_mastery which = xxx }

The first command only works if an event happens to a satellite country, the second one only if the event happens to the satellite master.


Also, Turkey is through events forced to cede two provinces in the Caucasus... Ardahan and Artvin, if I'm not mistaken. This is a nice thing, but in my games Turkey sometimes owns a few more provinces in Russian Georgia and Armenia which are isolated after this event... kindof as if France seceded Alsace-Lorraine to Germany, but kept the Rhineland. So if the event could be corrected to force Turkey to cede not only Artvin and Ardahan but also everything east and north of that, the map would look much better and make more sense. These lines could be added to the above mentioned event 279045 for example...

command = { type = secedestate which = RUS value = 1041 } #erevan + all of Russian Armenia
command = { type = secedestate which = RUS value = 1056 } #poti + all of Russian Georgia

 

[OHgamer]

Hi y'all! I just played a game through to 1881 and I greatly enjoyed the Crimean War events and the later events between Russia and the OE. They make the game so much more fun!

A few little things caught my eye, though...

- the Treaty of Paris (Russian advantage) event 279045 in VIP_Ottomans.txt is supposed to break the vassalization between Turkey and the Serbs and Romanians have a misspelled event command... it says
command = { type = end_satellite which = xxx }

but in order for it to work, it should say
command = { type = end_satellite_mastery which = xxx }

The first command only works if an event happens to a satellite country, the second one only if the event happens to the satellite master.


Also, Turkey is through events forced to cede two provinces in the Caucasus... Ardahan and Artvin, if I'm not mistaken. This is a nice thing, but in my games Turkey sometimes owns a few more provinces in Russian Georgia and Armenia which are isolated after this event... kindof as if France seceded Alsace-Lorraine to Germany, but kept the Rhineland. So if the event could be corrected to force Turkey to cede not only Artvin and Ardahan but also everything east and north of that, the map would look much better and make more sense. These lines could be added to the above mentioned event 279045 for example...

command = { type = secedestate which = RUS value = 1041 } #erevan + all of Russian Armenia
command = { type = secedestate which = RUS value = 1056 } #poti + all of Russian Georgia

Will investigate and repair. Thanks!

Edit - submitted fixes will be included in 0.4

 

[nomoi]

Karl is right about the vassal thing. After I wrote the event through the tests that I have made I have figured it out for myself and chaged it like:

command = { type = end_satellite_mastery which = xxx }

and that worked.

 

[Generalisimo]

Karl is right about the vassal thing. After I wrote the event through the tests that I have made I have figured it out for myself and chaged it like:

command = { type = end_satellite_mastery which = xxx }

and that worked.

yep.

 

[Tunch Khan]

Is there something wrong with Romanian unification events or was it just random that they did not result in unification when i last played? I played as OE and even encouraged their unification but nothing came out of it. Any other experiences?
And on another note, the Serbian ai still offered me alliance around 1870s. Can someone fix that maybe?

 

[OHgamer]

Is there something wrong with Romanian unification events or was it just random that they did not result in unification when i last played? I played as OE and even encouraged their unification but nothing came out of it. Any other experiences?
And on another note, the Serbian ai still offered me alliance around 1870s. Can someone fix that maybe?

Testing for 0.4 and 95% of the time unification happens in 1858. Perhaps somewhere along the line a B-choice was taken that screwed it up?

All the AIs are getting a review for 0.4 but that again could be due to the peculiarities of your game. Perhaps Austria was being really aggressive towards Serbia and no one wanted to help them, so turn to the Turks? Just a theory.

 

[Tunch Khan]

Testing for 0.4 and 95% of the time unification happens in 1858. Perhaps somewhere along the line a B-choice was taken that screwed it up?

All the AIs are getting a review for 0.4 but that again could be due to the peculiarities of your game. Perhaps Austria was being really aggressive towards Serbia and no one wanted to help them, so turn to the Turks? Just a theory.

Cool, i'll try it more than. So when is this 0.4 coming out?

is there a beta i can get?

 

[unmerged(20981)]

Is it possible to play as Wallachia or Moldova all the way through unification, and then become Romania without it being game over?

 

[OHgamer]

Is it possible to play as Wallachia or Moldova all the way through unification, and then become Romania without it being game over?

If a human plays either, IIRC they 'become" Romania when the event comes up, much like Prussia (or another GER minor) becomes Germany. Or at least that is what the events intend.

 

[Tzar Kalojan]

Is a new version of VIP planned ?
if yes , do you need bulgarian history info?