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Viking eh?

You rang? :D

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A map of our scenario!

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Prepare yourselves, Skraeling!

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Sail ho!

*snip*

Hope that helped,

Jaron
 
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Moron

ffs... someone delete that post, and jaron go hijack another thread will you. I've reported your post to a moderator as it seems you are now doing this merely to "have a laugh" at our expense.

Up until this point these forums were the most civilised and well controlled forums i'd ever been involved in. You are quickly ruining that fact. If you have a personal issue with me then i suggest you take it out on me in private... not waste 2-3 pages of thread as you have done so.
 
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Originally posted by Captain Krunch
Languish: Did you get my Iceland & Greenland file?


This project has evolved well beyond just Vinland. We will need more help for these new countries, preferably from someone like Viking, who lives there.

Yep got it thanks.

We are already getting the right kind of help imho, if Viking comes back pretty soon i think we should get him on the team fast. If anyone else wants to help (exc. Jaron) then sure, lets get them in.
 
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Originally posted by Languish
Moron

ffs... someone delete that post, and jaron go hijack another thread will you. I've reported your post to a moderator as it seems you are now doing this merely to "have a laugh" at our expense.

Up until this point these forums were the most civilised and well controlled forums i'd ever been involved in. You are quickly ruining that fact. If you have a personal issue with me then i suggest you take it out on me in private... not waste 2-3 pages of thread as you have done so.

I see nothing off-topic about Jaron's post, and how is it hijacking.. it is about Vikings, no? :eek:
 

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Beta 3.2 - Expected Details

I've been through all the files and determined what i think the best course of action is for us. Basically now that a great deal of the existing code is fixed and verified we need to "fill in the gaps" included the remaining additional countries and close of the first period of time.

As far as im concerned we have only really focused on the years 1419-1490 (approximately up to when europeans first start arriving), and we need to make sure this early period of time is locked down before we deal with contact with europe. We need to also ensure it remains interesting to the player whatever nation they play. Here are some bullet points i think we need to pursue.

Micmac

1. Inclusion of 1-2 Leaders to increase micmac prowess on the battlefield and to possibly deter any norse attack on them if that course of action is taken.
2. 2-3 "Filler" events for the micmac prior to the assassination event (if that occurs) in 1457. Up until that time, barring wars with huron, it can be very boring for the micmac player.
3. Adding 1-2 small new tribes and taking the focus away from huron. More to come re: this.

Vinland

1. Really on event tweaking, syntax checking and playing up until 1490 to see if everything is in order.

Greenland

1. Inclusion of Greenland as a revolter, with the associated events, leaders, and monarchs.

Iceland

1. Inclusion of Iceland as a playable vassalised state of Norway, with the associated events, leaders, and monarchs.

Miscellany

1. Sod / Longhouse Graphics required.
2. Unit Sprites are also being checked.
 
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Originally posted by Fireblade


I see nothing off-topic about Jaron's post, and how is it hijacking.. it is about Vikings, no? :eek:

I suggest you read the entire thread to gather why. One page was entirely ruined by deterring the fool from continually impressing a islamic vinland possibility. Its a good idea (i never said it wasnt) but we unanimously rejected it as not in our perception of what the vinland scenario was about.

For some reason his intellect has failed to deal with that, some three times.
 
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Languish: I think the next versions should be called Beta 4 rather than beta 3.2, because this will be a rather big one...

P.S. Don't get upset about Jaron's posts. Remember, he can post his ideas, but we don't necessarily have to include them. Some things he says are funny sometimes too... and he has had some good ideas before, and I think he probably will again. ;)
 

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Originally posted by Captain Krunch
Languish: I think the next versions should be called Beta 4 rather than beta 3.2, because this will be a rather big one...

P.S. Don't get upset about Jaron's posts. Remember, he can post his ideas, but we don't necessarily have to include them. Some things he says are funny sometimes too... and he has had some good ideas before, and I think he probably will again. ;)

Sure, beta 4.

I'm not upset, just pissed-off quite frankly. I wouldnt be so bothered if this was the first time but he keeps going away and coming back with the same old b.s.

Either sort it out or go is what i say.
 
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Originally posted by Languish


Sure, beta 4.

I'm not upset, just pissed-off quite frankly. I wouldnt be so bothered if this was the first time but he keeps going away and coming back with the same old b.s.

Either sort it out or go is what i say.

Maybe he just likes to get on your nerves. He didn't make any posts in this thread when you were gone. ;)

If thats true, then if you just ignore him he will probably just lose interest in bugging you.
 

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Fair enough, but there is a limit.

Additionally... and to get with the program... i'll be finishing off the micmacs up until 1490 in the next few days. I am going to be reshuffling the events and changing the primary opponent of the micmac from the huron to the abenaki who were closer and later than 1419 actually enemies in an 8 year long war.

Basically i have been doing a lot of research recently and i will be adding one new native tribe in reponse. They wont be that large but will be more relevant to the story.
 
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Originally posted by Languish
Fair enough, but there is a limit.

Additionally... and to get with the program... i'll be finishing off the micmacs up until 1490 in the next few days. I am going to be reshuffling the events and changing the primary opponent of the micmac from the huron to the abenaki who were closer and later than 1419 actually enemies in an 8 year long war.

Basically i have been doing a lot of research recently and i will be adding one new native tribe in reponse. They wont be that large but will be more relevant to the story.

The Abenaki tribe? That will be odd, because the Micmac have Abenaki culture, so they are their own enemies? ;)
 
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Originally posted by Languish
The culture is the same but the nations are different... i have all the future events worked out for the micmac... should be awesome. 2 tribes in total, both owning 1 province each but again... highly important to the story.

What did you think of my horse eating natives event? It should make the natives a bit easier to play, and I don't think it is unplausible either. After all, the Vinlanders no doubt would have introduced horses to the continent, if they survived. It's a way to give them horses, without having to give them a whiteman value... thus their tech research rate will still remain low.
 
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Re: death to vinland

Originally posted by jaron
A solar eclipse occured late Feb, 1504. Scared the natives senseless..this was a particulary dark one and it was seen all the way from jamaica as far north as hudson bay ( according to my astronomy booK :D)

an event, maybe? :cool:

Is this Solar eclipse a true event? If so, it can be made into an event, as long as the effects of the event are realistic and reasonable.

Death to Vinland would not qualify as a reasonable and realistic effect for this solar eclipse... ;)
 

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Re: death to vinland

Originally posted by jaron
A solar eclipse occured late Feb, 1504. Scared the natives senseless..this was a particulary dark one and it was seen all the way from jamaica as far north as hudson bay ( according to my astronomy booK :D)

an event, maybe? :cool:

:rolleyes:

Not in Northern Canada... so as usual unresearched and pointless. What's with the subject line anyhow? Don't you wan't to be taken seriously?
 

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Hi,

I've been researching the Micmac ever since I entered into this thread and now that we are on a stable working beta (3.1b) I can now safely start adjusting things to be a fraction more historically correct. The micmac were definitely a warlike tribe, and they strongly competed over rights to the fur trade. The fur trade was their primary trading commodity to the french/vinlanders and they would easily go to war over it.

The huron, or algonquin peoples, were never at war with the Micmac... Not really ever from what I was able to research. However they did destroy a tribe across the st.lawrence prior to the arrival of the europeans. This will be the event to bring in the vinlander's and possibly start the early alliance. I am still working on whether;

a) Whether it should even be a tribe whatsoever, or a part of another tribe.
b) It should a merely symbolic event that is more text than action and designed to start the alliance (or potentially start it).

At the moment I'm almost certainly going to go for option B, and avoid the unecessary and out of character huron war. They did clash with algonquins, but not as much as they did with the abenaki or english. This is the angle I will be pushing for. To this end I can remove the incorrect megantic province from the list. The micmac never went further than Kespekewag "last land" which corresponds to bas-st-laurent (111). I plan to concentrate on building up the events and history of the micmacs, but for the truly warlike indigenous player he can still go after huron if he wishes, just not legitimately.

For inclusion into events will be the Maliseet Tribe (Bangor 112) and the Abenaki (Penobscot 104) as the only additional tribes. There are numerous pieces of information related to strong alliances with the maliseet and war then alliance with the abenaki. The province names, are wrong, although we can change the map. Province 104 should have really been called Maine. Bangor is also the home of the passamaquoddy and penobscots. So the maliseets will assume there "events" accordingly.

Past 1490 the events will of course depend on how far vinland has progressed, but untouched the micmac will most likely convert to catholicism and be pro-french vehemently opposing any english settlement of their lands. This again depends on their relationship with vinland.

More to come.
 

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Unresearched and pointless. I said I got it from a text book. maybe 'DEATH' is a bit strong but I want to make an event. The reason I do not like to post here is because Languish treats all my posts aggressively, and knocks my ideas down I believe just because they're mine. Only because Krunch is open minded enough to look over my ideas before dismissing them do I continue to dedicate my precious time here. Cheers Krunch :)

Jaron
 

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Originally posted by jaron
Unresearched and pointless. I said I got it from a text book. maybe 'DEATH' is a bit strong but I want to make an event. The reason I do not like to post here is because Languish treats all my posts aggressively, and knocks my ideas down I believe just because they're mine. Only because Krunch is open minded enough to look over my ideas before dismissing them do I continue to dedicate my precious time here. Cheers Krunch :)

Jaron

Did you actually even check whether there was any historical fact for the specific tribes/vinland were are referring to in Canada? Of course you didnt.

If you think that i am even vaguely jealous of the tripe you have posted you are gravely mistaken. You have stated you are going to leave about three times yet you keep coming back like some kind of lost puppy.

Krunch is open minded, yet has has also refuted any islamic vinland scenario catagorically. He just words its nicer than i do. Personally i have got no time for you... time after time you continually shoot yourself in your own foot.

research and use common sense

Edit: I am shocked to discover you are over 20. Truly.