Vijayanagar- defending the faith

[hjarg]

Originally posted by Alexander Seil


This is rather isolated case. Rate of tech advances for such countries should be at least REALLY slow before contact with actual TERRITORY of advanced European nation. It would be weird to see Mysore developing machine gun if they never were in contact with europeans.

Blah-blah-blah... well, that actually works for Aztecs, Incas & other American nations. But why Indian, i can't figure it out.

Besides, if it makes you happy, i'm in contact with Europeans, i even have merchants in Tago, Venice, Flanders, Mecklenburg, Novgorod etc etc.

 

[unmerged(1815)]

So my fears prove right... trading maps is as easy as before, and it has no penalties...

 

[Agelastus]

Originally posted by Pred
So my fears prove right... trading maps is as easy as before, and it has no penalties...

According to BiB, it does use a diplomat now, so chain swapping from the beginning must be tougher. That helps a little..........

 

[unmerged(2711)]

I'm glad to see that the AI is much more expansionistic in this game, what with the Timurids annexing every nation that they can get their hands on. I got really tired in EU 1 of France & others beating the snot out of all the nations around it and then accepting status quo peaces...
And what are the odds of Afghanistan renouncing the Hindu faith in the future?

 

[Alexander Seil]

Originally posted by hjarg


Blah-blah-blah... well, that actually works for Aztecs, Incas & other American nations. But why Indian, i can't figure it out.

Besides, if it makes you happy, i'm in contact with Europeans, i even have merchants in Tago, Venice, Flanders, Mecklenburg, Novgorod etc etc.

There must be at least some limit to their tech advance, they can't be as advanced as Europeans!

 

[unmerged(5098)]

The reason his tech is so good is because he built so many refineries. It's the same as in EU1- If you build A LOT of refineries early, your merchants will dominate, you will get richer, and you so will be the most advanced tech-wise.....

 

[hjarg]

Originally posted by Pred
So my fears prove right... trading maps is as easy as before, and it has no penalties...

Well... actually i haven't traded a single map All comes with pure conquest: Timurid annex Turkey and get their maps. Baluchistan declares independence and gets Timurid's maps. I take Baluchistan and get their maps. Simple, plus no trading required.

Yes, trading maps costs a diplomat right now: plus the AI is much less likely to accept your offer.

 

[hjarg]

Originally posted by Alexander Seil


There must be at least some limit to their tech advance, they can't be as advanced as Europeans!

Lagging really behind in Naval tech. Does that please you?

 

[unmerged(2833)]

Hjarg, i have quite important question, how genoicide works now? Is this any different from EU I? For example, does it stop at pop level 5000? And how can you make province rebel? Please, explain as much as you can

 

[Spruce]

Hjarg,

how explorers and conquistadors work? Real time guidance trough the dense forests and wild seas? Is it more difficult to explore the new world (attrition higher?).

 

[unmerged(1740)]

Originally posted by hjarg
Shogun: well, let's leave some things to be discovered by yourself... like that annexation thingie . Cavalry is not so expencive and i have a lot of money. Besides, one could really use cavalry in these no-fire phases early in the game.

magicpiper97: i get full 12% growth rate for colonies.

Jools: dunno

is the growth rate fixed now? When it says 12% growth rate does it grow at 1.2%(like Eu1)

You can tell if in a colony of 100 people, it should grow to 112 if the growth rate is fixed...

 

[State Machine]

Originally posted by joey703


is the growth rate fixed now? When it says 12% growth rate does it grow at 1.2%(like Eu1)

You can tell if in a colony of 100 people, it should grow to 112 if the growth rate is fixed...

That was an information problem in EU 1 - growth rate is really over ten years. So, 1.2% growth is correct in EU 1 when 12% is reported. The game should either display either 1.2% or 12% for 10 years. I am not sure if there is any "compounding" in the calculation - i.e. to get 12% over 10 years means having something less that 1.2% per annum growth.

 

[Agelastus]

Originally posted by State Machine
That was an information problem in EU 1 - growth rate is really over ten years. So, 1.2% growth is correct in EU 1 when 12% is reported. The game should either display either 1.2% or 12% for 10 years. I am not sure if there is any "compounding" in the calculation - i.e. to get 12% over 10 years means having something less that 1.2% per annum growth.

I think he meant the "12% bug", which I asked about earlier...........and Hjarg avoided saying whether it was fixed or not.

You know, the one that islands such as Isle Royale suffer from, where the population climbs at a rate of one a month (so in the game's terminology, for a ten year period from base 100, that's a 120% growth rate!)

 

[hjarg]

Originally posted by Agelastus


I think he meant the "12% bug", which I asked about earlier...........and Hjarg avoided saying whether it was fixed or not.

Sorry, i thought i said it already: not fixed, i get 12% growth rate for my colonies around India. But in Africa, i get the same good old negative bonus... so maybe it's region-dependent?

 

[hjarg]

Originally posted by Maur13
Hjarg, i have quite important question, how genoicide works now? Is this any different from EU I? For example, does it stop at pop level 5000? And how can you make province rebel? Please, explain as much as you can

Same as in EU1 religion... but your aim is to change culture this time.

 

[hjarg]

Originally posted by Spruce
Hjarg,

how explorers and conquistadors work? Real time guidance trough the dense forests and wild seas? Is it more difficult to explore the new world (attrition higher?).

You still hold their hand and walk to the New World toghether.

 

[unmerged(2833)]

Yes, but in EU I it was imposibble to bring population to 1000, due to fact population loss after taking city stopped at 5000,

and btw, what is the population of your sikh provinces?

 

[Agelastus]

Originally posted by Maur13
Yes, but in EU I it was imposibble to bring population to 1000, due to fact population loss after taking city stopped at 5000,

and btw, what is the population of your sikh provinces?

700, Maur13, 700. That was the lower limit-it was quite easy to send a city below 1000 sould in EU.

Hjarg
Yes, you did mention your colonial growth rate, but not if it was still buggy compared to, say, 11% growth. Thanks for telling us that it still is, since that gives you a small but useful advantage as Vijayanagar in India.........................

 

[unmerged(2833)]

Eh, no, negative natural growth couldn't bring colony under 700, yes, but i was speaking of population loss after succesful siege, which stopped at population level 5000-after that only negative growth could bring it down, and it means it would take a lot of time to shrink population from 5000 to 1000 that way...

 

[Agelastus]

Originally posted by Maur13
Eh, no, negative natural growth couldn't bring colony under 700, yes, but i was speaking of population loss after succesful siege, which stopped at population level 5000-after that only negative growth could bring it down, and it means it would take a lot of time to shrink population from 5000 to 1000 that way...

Then I must be missing something, as I've seen provinces go below five thousand during sieges....I think. Anyway, once it's down there, the next siege'll take it lower.

But if that's true, then I guess they may have changed it. It depends on the nature of fortress garrisons..............