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Crete "Dev Diary"



Some of you probably know that Ordep and I are currently working on a Briton themed update, so you may wonder why we are doing a dev diary on Crete, of all places. As ROI is being released earlier than we expected, we agreed it was best to save the Briton stuff for the first major post-ROI release (1.6.0), so that we have adequate time to work on and test it. While looking for something nice to add to this weekend's update, the final one before ROI, (and also to give myself a short break from the Briton shenanigans like Celtic festivals and Merlin and what have you), I stumbled on Crete, and decided why the heck not. This coming update will thus feature the lovely island as the star of the mini-themed update.




The five families of Crete.



First things first - we are adding a new Muslim "republic," the Emirate of Crete. It is already playable from the 867 start (and only the 867 start), but now it is a "republic" with five patrician families - three Andalusian and two Greek (one Orthodox, the other Sunni). Historically, the Emirate of Crete has an interesting story. It was founded by Andalusians who were expelled from Umayyad Spain for partaking in a rebellion; these refugees first conquered Alexandria for the lulz, and, when they were kicked out, decided to go to Crete. From Crete, they engaged in much raiding, particularly on the ERE; Byzantine sources give a very unfavorable impression of them, unsurprisingly. Yet, Arabic sources from the time describe Crete as extremely prosperous with a high standard of living, a land of opportunity of sorts, where trade and commerce flourished.




Note the new fun event pics for Muslim Republics. ^^



As the Emirate of Crete, you may even get Muslim courtiers from time to time, migrating from the nearby regions of the North Africa and Levant to seek new opportunities in your land of opportunity, your Muslim “republic” (as was historically the case). Overall, the Emirate, which previously was a quirky and interesting challenge in vanilla, is now even more quirky and interesting - will your maritime exploits be enough to keep you alive (as it apparently did, for a while), or will the ethnic and religious divisions cause problems, allowing you to be curbstomped by the Byzantines like what happened historically? It's quite unfortunate there isn't too much material available on this fascinating period in Crete's history, but oh well.




Wine, women, and song, Cretan folk style.



Other than adding in Crete as a Republic, those who rule Crete (that is, have a demesne province or capital there), also have access to a little special decision - "Attend Cretan Wine Festival" - where you get to, well, attend one of the local wine festivals. Crete was a wine producing region, and many of the local festivities revolved around that. It's a small decision (small as in still larger than PI’s Passover event chain), but a fun little one. Besides that, Ordep and I are also planning a few flavor events and event chains for those lucky enough to live in Crete, dealing with topics such as Cretan cheese pies and possible encounters with the remains of the Minoan civilization. We’ll also have a Greek music pack.




No Dracula, but I have a bad feeling about this…



So that's pretty it for this small, themed update. A number of you said you really enjoyed the little touches VIET did to make different regions feel more unique, so this is sort of the stuff we want to do more in the future (not that we won't focus on big, religious updates like we have been). In fact you can think of this Crete stuff as a preview of the culture and region-unique stuff Ordep and I are planning to do in the future (such as the Briton stuff, which we are still also currently working on). Over time, you'll hopefully see an even more diverse world than what VIET currently has - not only will it make a difference whether you start as an Orthodox Christian or a Manichean Gnostic, or a Russian or a Greek Orthodox character, it'll also make a difference whether you're a Greek character on Crete or one in Sicily. I dunno if we'll ever get to cover every part of the CKII world, but we'll try. Obviously many play Crete ever, but I hope it’s a nice surprise if you do manage to rule Crete and these little bits of flavor pop up.



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Unrelated pic of baklava/



Overall, as I hinted in the past, we are trying to change the way VIET releases new stuff: now, instead of seeing big honking updates every once in a while, updates will be smaller and more focused. So, for instance, instead of seeing one big pan-Slavic and Slavic pagan update, you might see three separate updates for the south, east, and west Slavs - maybe even more, if necessary. This will not only allow us to (ironically) put in more and more detailed content, but also allow us to work at a more leisurely pace.



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Oblivion has really beautiful sunsets. Pic also unrelated.



Additionally, as a side note - some of you may have suspected, but my recovery is going well, as I'm able to do more things now. Frankly. however, I guess it's pointless to talk about whether I’ll “officially” “return” to modding or not as my situation is very delicate, complex, and fluctuating, so at this point I don't really know when I'll be completely off the hook. Still, once I figured I could mod on the ipad I was already back in some capacity. Anyhow, all that aside, after this Crete business and the post-ROI integration, our next stop are the Britons, and Ordep will hopefully be writing the dev diary for that, so stay tuned for that. (And, as another side note, for those plagued with endless egg festivals and incurable cinnamon toast crunch addiction, we have been able to figure out ways to fix those (hopefully))


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And so, Ordep and I invite you to the beautiful island of Crete! Seriously, though, yes, pic also sort of unrelated, but it apparently is from Crete. Greece has such beautiful islands, I love ‘em.
 

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Let's go holidaying and go to a wine festival, Cybr!

Nice looking update, mate. Good to see you are working on some small stuff and I hope that everything is going well with your recovery. At least well enough so you can tinker about here and there with adding little tidbits. I am interesting in the fact you are turning Crete into an Islamic Republic in 867, yet do I spy a Greek patrician family there, or two? A multicultural fabric society? I like!
 

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Let's go holidaying and go to a wine festival, Cybr!

Nice looking update, mate. Good to see you are working on some small stuff and I hope that everything is going well with your recovery. At least well enough so you can tinker about here and there with adding little tidbits. I am interesting in the fact you are turning Crete into an Islamic Republic in 867, yet do I spy a Greek patrician family there, or two? A multicultural fabric society? I like!

Due to the fact there aren't many reliable sources concerning the Emirte of Crete (Byzantine sources were understandably biased) it's hard to tell how exactly religion and ethnicity played out. It appears that when the Byzantines reconquered the island there were various Muslim and Christian factions fighting one another, and not necessarily along sectarian lines. A few Cretans appear to have converted to Islam (represented by the (fictional) Tzamaras patrician family you see above), while a good chunk remained Christian. It does appear that many - if not most -of the Muslims on Crete during this time were Andalusian Arabs (or occasionally Arabs from other nearby regions) or their descendents who migrated to Crete. However, I don't find it implausible that Cretan Christians would've joined their fellow Muslims in the raiding activities the Emirate is most well-known for - Crete has had a long tradition of piracy and similar sorts of fighting and conflict.

So ultimately, yes, despite the little information available on it, it does appear to indeed be a mess of religions and ethnicities - with the coming of the Venetians and the Turks in CKII's later timeframe, and EUIV's timeframe, only more so.
 

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Looks lovely :) More republics are always good!

BTW do the Cretan wine events also fire for Muslim characters? After all they are kind of forbidden to have wine.

And no Jewish mercantile family? Awww but they are fun!
 

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As a citizen of Chania (the ancient Minoan city of Cydonia) I am super happy about this update!!! I think I'll go for Cretan Tsikoudia (aka Raki ) night tonight to celebrate.

If you need any help or info about this update Cybr just ask me.
 

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All right, I love me some multicultural republics. Though the religious side tends to disapear quite quickly in my experience with Hormuz.

Would it be possible for you to add in an endgoal? My thinking was that if you managed to maintain the cultural and religious diversity of your republic, you could have a greek/andalusian melting pot that gives you Cretan or something like that.
 

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All right, I love me some multicultural republics. Though the religious side tends to disapear quite quickly in my experience with Hormuz.

Would it be possible for you to add in an endgoal? My thinking was that if you managed to maintain the cultural and religious diversity of your republic, you could have a greek/andalusian melting pot that gives you Cretan or something like that.

People love their melting pots :p

I'll make a tease... there were some mentions in this DD I told cybr to remove as they'd give away future plans. With that said, this wont be the last time we see Crete featured in a DD (doesnt necessarily mean we're doing a melting pot, but we have plans) :)
 

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Looks lovely :) More republics are always good!

BTW do the Cretan wine events also fire for Muslim characters? After all they are kind of forbidden to have wine.

And no Jewish mercantile family? Awww but they are fun!


Apparently the relationship historically between Islam and alcohol is a bit more ambiguous than one would think, and much (not all, but much) of the anti-alcohol ideology you hear about is a modern pheromonenon, though I don't want to blab about that here. Enough that I didn't want to bother preventing Muslims from attending the wine festival (I may add in one event or two for Muslims to show their piety or lack thereof concerning wine). The decision, however, will be unavailable to zealous Muslims, so there's that.

As for a Jewish mercantile family I was considering it but I didn't find much that suggested Jews were an important part of Crete, relatively speaking, during this era. Or, rather, I didn't find much on Cretan Jews at all, and even one source seems to suggest there were few Jews in the emirate of Crete.





As a citizen of Chania (the ancient Minoan city of Cydonia) I am super happy about this update!!! I think I'll go for Cretan Tsikoudia (aka Raki ) night tonight to celebrate.

If you need any help or info about this update Cybr just ask me.

Tsikoudia, I know about that, I read up on it. :D

Anyhow we are pretty much done with the Cretan stuff at this point but feel free to make suggestions or correct any incorrectness you spot in our flavor events of course, we are always glad to hear more, and as Ordep said this may not be the last you guys will hear of Crete.

All right, I love me some multicultural republics. Though the religious side tends to disapear quite quickly in my experience with Hormuz.

Would it be possible for you to add in an endgoal? My thinking was that if you managed to maintain the cultural and religious diversity of your republic, you could have a greek/andalusian melting pot that gives you Cretan or something like that.

Funny, you know, a long time ago I considered making a Cretan culture just for the lulz. Anyhow, no plans for a melting pot, Crete's too small to justify one. :p

To be honest though yeah Crete wil probably turn mostly Muslim at some point, due to the current engine limitations (ROI may give us some tools to deal with diplomatic interactions more, we will see how that works). However I expect the ERE to come swooping down and eating Crete alive anyways (as happened historically) so it'll probably go back to orthodox in no time.



People love their melting pots :p

I'll make a tease... there were some mentions in this DD I told cybr to remove as they'd give away future plans. With that said, this wont be the last time we see Crete featured in a DD (doesnt necessarily mean we're doing a melting pot, but we have plans) :)

Yes, it's a s-e-c-r-e-t.
 

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People love their melting pots :p

I'll make a tease... there were some mentions in this DD I told cybr to remove as they'd give away future plans. With that said, this wont be the last time we see Crete featured in a DD (doesnt necessarily mean we're doing a melting pot, but we have plans) :)
Now, I am intrigued. The Cretan stuff looks excellent as always.
 

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I don't know to which secret you're referring, but I'm still waiting for you to announce the [redacted] stuff so I can finally put the related icons into my master post...

Hmm, kind of keep forgetting about it, I guess there's not much point in having that [redacted] stuff be secret anymore since the original reason for it being secret no longer is relevant (that is, me recovering enough to do the first official themed update once I return with pizazz, no longer relevant because it's now pointless to talk about an official return or not for me, and because I am definitely getting way sidetracked again).

So, um, announcement to everyone, after the Cretan and Briton stuff we are gonna do the Fraticelli (nice Franciscan nonsense and all), partly because Ordep kept talking about the Fraticelli way back. And then after the Fraticelli we will do the secret stuff. Probably. Unless I'm remembering our plans wrong.

So yes Ordep you can now show that Fraticelli art in your thread. :p
 

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Hmm, kind of keep forgetting about it, I guess there's not much point in having that [redacted] stuff be secret anymore since the original reason for it being secret no longer is relevant (that is, me recovering enough to do the first official themed update once I return with pizazz, no longer relevant because it's now pointless to talk about an official return or not for me, and because I am definitely getting way sidetracked again).

So, um, announcement to everyone, after the Cretan and Briton stuff we are gonna do the Fraticelli (nice Franciscan nonsense and all), partly because Ordep kept talking about the Fraticelli way back. And then after the Fraticelli we will do the secret stuff. Probably. Unless I'm remembering our plans wrong.

So yes Ordep you can now show that Fraticelli art in your thread. :p

dont forget about slavs man ;)
 

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Here's a baklava store, Cybr:
sultans-of-istambul-pravo-baklava-carstvo-889.jpg

Now go and do Slavses.
BTW, this gives me an idea for an easter egg (it lies in the store's name).
 

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Yeah, don't worry, Slavs will be coming, though in separate, smaller pieces than one big clump (which ultimately is better anyways, allows us to give more focus to each Slavic group/sub-group). Plan right now is Britons, then Fraticelli, then SURPRISE, then one of the Slavic stuff, then Mazdakites/Khurramites, then other Slavic stuff (what precisely undetermined), then more Slavic stuff interspersed with other updates such as possibly some Iranian/Manichean/Yazidi stuff. Other than the Britons and Fraticelli, however, I expect everything else in the plan to be shuffled around since that's always happened.
 

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SURPISE has to be Khitan, I am sure of it. :3
 

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"But beware the Kara-Khitai. They are without honour."
*dadadun*
I'm thinking that Cybr is aiming to fix the fact that there are no Khitans on the map in RoI. :D