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Originally posted by Dark Knight
Never, but you will be able to view the actual game when it is released. :)
Slightly off topic question, but why? I know from past experience that they never unhid the beta forums for the EUs or HOI, but whats the point? It would be interesting to see how the development process went once we got the game in our grubby little hand and played around with a bit, just to see how far some things have come, etc. Is it NDA related, perhaps? Just curious. :)
 

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Yes, I too would like to follow suite with PriestofDiscord's question, though not to be a pesky person or anything, just for the sake of understanding paradox's game development philosophy.

I understand the usefulness of a closed beta forum (believe me, because of this, I am addicted to this game like some drug before it is even out :D ), but I would like to know more regarding Paradox's philosophy regarding the usefulness of such.

Thank you for your consideration :) ,

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Originally posted by PriestOfDiscord
Slightly off topic question, but why? I know from past experience that they never unhid the beta forums for the EUs or HOI, but whats the point? It would be interesting to see how the development process went once we got the game in our grubby little hand and played around with a bit, just to see how far some things have come, etc. Is it NDA related, perhaps? Just curious. :)
Well, only Johan can really answer this question. :)

As for my speculations:
Firstly, because Paradox continues to use the beta forum to improve the game for many months after the release, they can't open the beta forum until they've completely stopped using it for new patches.
Secondly, they probably don't want you to see all of the squabbles that we've had, anyway. ;)
 

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Promising

Hmm. That was actually so fun to play, that I ought to make an AAR out of it and continue the game. Would make a splendid beta AAR: "Blood to the ankles - and Rising"

This is very promising. especially when you compare it in tone to PE's 'Chopsticks in the Mist' AAR for HoI which...ended in irritation. The hint that Peter Ebbesen is doing very PE-style things with Victoria (erm...) and seemingly enjoying the game gives me hope.

*waits patiently*
 

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I think it took me at least a week to make my first true contribution as a beta. Most of us joining late were quite at lost in the start opening number of threads asking for help in basic things, like how to report a bug and what is a bug. Things are going smoother now, so I see the reasoning behind limiting betas.

It was no surprise for me either to see that Peter Ebbesen had a rather, hmm... , brutal approach:D
 

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Re: Promising

Originally posted by Quercus
This is very promising. especially when you compare it in tone to PE's 'Chopsticks in the Mist' AAR for HoI which...ended in irritation.
It should be noted that I hold a retail product that has already had one major patch to a somewhat higher standard than a beta release that changes radically on a daily basis and is expected to evidence unexpected behaviour - if you know what I mean. :)

Ah, well. For the dummies: I mean BUGS! :D
 

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Re: Re: Promising

Originally posted by Peter Ebbesen
It should be noted that I hold a retail product that has already had one major patch to a somewhat higher standard than a beta release that changes radically on a daily basis and is expected to evidence unexpected behaviour - if you know what I mean. :)

Ah, well. For the dummies: I mean BUGS! :D

Ah, bugs. Now I understand.:)
 

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Re: Re: Re: Promising

Originally posted by Sonny
Ah, bugs. Now I understand.:)
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You mean undocumented features. Like CTDs in EU2 gave you an excuse to go to the toilet and put the kettle on.
CtDs prevent Paradox customers from suffering serious injury as they would otherwise fall unconscious from playing the game for too long a sitting. ;)
 

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i think the ctds help alot in the beginning since when u first get the game you play it all the time, the ctds counter this and let you live on a normal life only you are severly pissed off all the time but thats the only side effect =).
 

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Having some minor undocumented, slightly irrational, features are there for the consumers' mental welfare. It stimulates your thinking to figure out what in the name of [insert deity] do these mini-sub techs do.:)
 

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Originally posted by Dark Knight
CtDs prevent Paradox customers from suffering serious injury as they would otherwise fall unconscious from playing the game for too long a sitting. ;)
No, no. That's what the 15 minutes out of every hour that you don't spend sitting down in front of the computer is for. Every game manual instructs you to take that rest, so I assume that all players do :)