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My question is: will the map be consulted with the community prior to game release? I ask because I'd rather we avoided the situation we had with HoI: absurd or wrong names (Cieszyn anyone?), wrong locations and so on.
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Originally posted by Patric
we will not consult anyone outside the beta group.
Patric
So, there is a chance that some of the provinces will be named afetr some redneck villages instead of metropolies, right?
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Originally posted by Halibutt
So, there is a chance that some of the provinces will be named afetr some redneck villages instead of metropolies, right?
Cheers



thats not very nice you know...

what if i was a redneck? im half redneck, and my bro is 3/4redneck
 

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Originally posted by Patric
Would it have been so if we had asked you?

Derogatory remarks like that are not welcome here!(...)
You got me wrong, Patric. There's no need to be upset, I only wanted to help as I know that - unfortunatelly - the HoI Betas did not catch the majority of map mistakes. And Nothing could be done after the game has been released.

But if my proposal is not appreciated, then no problem.
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Originally posted by Patric
we will not consult anyone outside the beta group.


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I just pray god you have a better beta tester crowd this time. Since both EUII and HoI had the exact same mistakes and it took me forever to fix them up. I just noticed the Turkish ones of course but i'm pretty sure there were similar mistakes for other countries too.

I mean leader names, both historic and random (especially random leader names were actually not even person names.. they were some misspelled town names), province names and army names (they were far from being accurate but also funny).

Having seen some screenshots, i even think the map should be readjusted both geographicly and geopolitically.

I don't think openly discussing these issues here would cause paradox any loss but on the contrary would earn the respect of its true fans who are all determined to make paradox games better.

Best wishes,

Tunch Khan
 

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Well, I don't think that P'dox or the betas add any mistakes on purpose. Instead, they attempt to make the game as correct and accurate as possible, and they get a lot of input on such matters.

Not sure what you mean by this though:
"Having seen some screenshots, i even think the map should be readjusted both geographicly and geopolitically."

Could you explain, please? :)
 

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Originally posted by Tunch Khan
I just pray god you have a better beta tester crowd this time. Since both EUII and HoI had the exact same mistakes and it took me forever to fix them up. I just noticed the Turkish ones of course but i'm pretty sure there were similar mistakes for other countries too.
One of the people who helped out with the Victoria map is Turkish. :)
 

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Originally posted by Sytass
Well, I don't think that P'dox or the betas add any mistakes on purpose. Instead, they attempt to make the game as correct and accurate as possible, and they get a lot of input on such matters.

Not sure what you mean by this though:


Could you explain, please? :)

I didn't mean to say that they were doing on purpose. Actually i do admire their work a lot. I'm quite surprised by their accuracy on most issues. However, i was disapointed by their policy on not accepting any help from non-beta-testers in this forum.

Me and Halibutt were just trying to be helpful so that the game does not have the same mistakes EUII and HOI had when they were released.

About geographical point of wiev, again i was only commenting on what i know the best, that is Turkey, according to the screenshots i have seen. I was told by Dark Knight that these are still not final and there's still room to be addressed.

From what i had seen, some Turkish provinces were not even drawn on map both on Vicky and CK. One of those provinces is Halikarnassos or modern day Bodrum that has a huge strategic importance (especially speaking for CK, housing a 'huge' military base castle for Knights of St. John Order)
 

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Originally posted by Tunch Khan
I just pray god you have a better beta tester crowd this time. Since both EUII and HoI had the exact same mistakes and it took me forever to fix them up. I just noticed the Turkish ones of course but i'm pretty sure there were similar mistakes for other countries too.

I mean leader names, both historic and random (especially random leader names were actually not even person names.. they were some misspelled town names), province names and army names (they were far from being accurate but also funny).


I'm sorry. Next time we'll be sure to have a PHD from each nation in the globe to form a thinktank to make sure we don't misspell a town in its native language. :rolleyes:

Won't happen again. ;)
 

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Originally posted by Tunch Khan
I just pray god you have a better beta tester crowd this time. (...)

1. We ALWAYS have the best beta testers so it is impossible to ask for better as there are none!
2. No fault in our games can or should be blamed on the beta testers!
3. We (Paradox) make all descisions on the game but we do listen to other sources and make changes if we feel that they are valid and if it is possible to do.
4. We are eternally grateful to our beta testers who make an invaluable contribution to the development process!

Patric
 

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Originally posted by Guinnessmonkey
I'm sorry. Next time we'll be sure to have a PHD from each nation in the globe to form a thinktank to make sure we don't misspell a town in its native language. :rolleyes:

Then how come such a naming system is in use?
Why not just use province IDs? None would be blaming that you misspelt 261 :D


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All right, I'll post the mistakes I saw here and you'll make or make not use of my knowledge.
- Kottbus (Eastern part of Germany) should be Cottbus
- Czech lands have their names in czech while the only polish province on any of the screenies is named in German (Posen instead of Poznan). The same goes for the baltic provinces. I suggest to make it more consistent. Either give the province ethnic names, or give them names in official language of the empire. (for A-H it would be latin...)
Unfortunately there are no screenshots of my part of the world, so I can't help you more.
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Originally posted by Halibutt
All right, I'll post the mistakes I saw here and you'll make or make not use of my knowledge.
- Kottbus (Eastern part of Germany) should be Cottbus
- Czech lands have their names in czech while the only polish province on any of the screenies is named in German (Posen instead of Poznan). The same goes for the baltic provinces. I suggest to make it more consistent. Either give the province ethnic names, or give them names in official language of the empire. (for A-H it would be latin...)
Unfortunately there are no screenshots of my part of the world, so I can't help you more.
Cheers

Thanks for your input!


Patric
 

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I just don't understand why you are all so mean. I know very well how hard you try to make this game perfect and i appreciate it but i think you should have a better (softer) approach to our positive critisism. We are not complaining or saying we don't like what you do, as dedicated fans we're trying to do our bests to improve the game (just our wishes at this point). By rejecting us and claiming that the game is already perfect and there's absolutely nothing we can do is just exluding a great resource and offensive. Consider us as little impatient kids who want to participate into the decoration of a x-mas tree.
 

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Originally posted by Tunch Khan
I just don't understand why you are all so mean. I know very well how hard you try to make this game perfect and i appreciate it but i think you should have a better (softer) approach to our positive critisism. We are not complaining or saying we don't like what you do, as dedicated fans we're trying to do our bests to improve the game (just our wishes at this point). By rejecting us and claiming that the game is already perfect and there's absolutely nothing we can do is just exluding a great resource and offensive. Consider us as little impatient kids who want to participate into the decoration of a x-mas tree.

I see you point of view! I also see Paradox's point of view! Its there decision in the end. So lets just let them get on with it. I also would like to add the odd spelling mistake is not serious. I mean whatever the country is called Im still going to conquer it!