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Short summary of your issue
OOS Issue to do with ShippingLanes

Game Version
1.0.3

What OS are you playing on?
Windows

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Have you tried verifying your game files?
Yes

How much "pain" is this causing you?
8

Please explain the issue you experienced in the most condensed way possible
Multiplayer game with 3 other friends, game worked perfectly well for many hours and many sessions, however suddenly it started having consistent out of sync issues and it didn't matter which autosave I went too. (went upwards of 5months back) It did not affect previous save games from previous sessions! So I can go back to a save game from 10years ago (losing over 6hrs of progress) and it works perfectly ok!

Please explain how to reproduce the issue
This was a game played with 3 others but I confirmed the oos was happening with just 1 other person (didn't matter who), it was very easily repeatable in that all you require is one other person to join this save file (I have uploaded it here) and leave the game running for just a few in-game days. It will OOS 100%.

Is there anything else you think could help us identify/replicate the issue?
It was a game where I was trying to force the human player who was playing japan to open his market. I got it open via diplomatic play and set trade routes for some of his resources, however shortly after I invited him to my Customs Union, I am unaware if its relatable but the game worked fine for many months until the date the save game loads at and now even desyncs on older autosaves as well. Going back to the save file made the PREVIOUS session does not contain this issue!

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Howdy iLordShade!

Thank you for reporting this OOS issue you've experienced to us.

For us to take a look at what has ensued, we would require you and your friends to send the OOS folder of this exact session, or approximately what you estimate is the OOS folder for it. These folders will have numbers and letters, and they should match between the 4 of you. I'll leave a link to our article on how to get those below for your convenience.

I look forward to your reply!
 

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Howdy iLordShade!

Thank you for reporting this OOS issue you've experienced to us.

For us to take a look at what has ensued, we would require you and your friends to send the OOS folder of this exact session, or approximately what you estimate is the OOS folder for it. These folders will have numbers and letters, and they should match between the 4 of you. I'll leave a link to our article on how to get those below for your convenience.


I look forward to your reply!
OOS1 is my OOS Files
OOS2 is my friend #1 files, I am trying to get the other two. But I think maybe just two will be enough to see the problem as we all suffered the same desync.

Please confirm if you need Friend #3 Friend #4 Files as well and i will endeavor to try and get the files.
 

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OOS1 is my OOS Files
OOS2 is my friend #1 files, I am trying to get the other two. But I think maybe just two will be enough to see the problem as we all suffered the same desync.

Please confirm if you need Friend #3 Friend #4 Files as well and i will endeavor to try and get the files.
Thanks for replying back with the folders!

While looking at the OOS zipped files, I noticed the numbers from both folders are different. This means the files sadly cannot be compared to identify the differences that could've caused the OOS issue. For instance, as you've sent the folder 1ecadaad8a0cf446_52 on OOS1, OOS2 should also have a 1ecadaad8a0cf446_52 folder, which means they both were part of the OOS in that same instance.

Please let me know if you are able to get these matching folders so we can take a peek, thank you!
 

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Thanks for replying back with the folders!

While looking at the OOS zipped files, I noticed the numbers from both folders are different. This means the files sadly cannot be compared to identify the differences that could've caused the OOS issue. For instance, as you've sent the folder 1ecadaad8a0cf446_52 on OOS1, OOS2 should also have a 1ecadaad8a0cf446_52 folder, which means they both were part of the OOS in that same instance.

Please let me know if you are able to get these matching folders so we can take a peek, thank you!
I tried, but the game seem to have generated different folder names so I am not sure how I can fix this, we loaded the save file and had the desync physically show up on screen but we weren't sure which button we had to press to try and get the folder names correct. I ended up quitting out and leaving and my friend quit out shortly afterwards and only after he quit his game, did the desync folder generate (which obviously was of a different folder name for some reason?)
 
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I tried, but the game seem to have generated different folder names so I am not sure how I can fix this, we loaded the save file and had the desync physically show up on screen but we weren't sure which button we had to press to try and get the folder names correct. I ended up quitting out and leaving and my friend quit out shortly afterwards and only after he quit his game, did the desync folder generate (which obviously was of a different folder name for some reason?)
Understood! Thanks a lot for the heads up.

I'll talk to the team and see if this can be looked into currently. If anything arises and we need a little bit more info, I'll give you a nudge on the thread here.

Sorry if this has caused any hassle, and thanks for helping out!
 

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I tried, but the game seem to have generated different folder names so I am not sure how I can fix this, we loaded the save file and had the desync physically show up on screen but we weren't sure which button we had to press to try and get the folder names correct. I ended up quitting out and leaving and my friend quit out shortly afterwards and only after he quit his game, did the desync folder generate (which obviously was of a different folder name for some reason?)
Hey there, sorry for the delay in our response!

We took a peek at the files closely and it seems that they are from completely different sessions (5th and 23rd of November respectively).

The OOS files will log when it happens and have the handler of the session itself. So if you and the other player are in the same game, and experience an OOS, it will generate an equal folder for the both of you.

Please let us know if you're able to take a look at the folders and see if similar ones have been generated, we'll take a look at them!
 

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Ok but I have solved the issue of the OOS, it appears that the OOS is caused by revolt wars that stalled or don't go anywhere, typically in countries where they have no army units available. I read about the possible cause in another thread on this forum and out of curiousity, open the save file that was bugging out on my end (causing an OOS in the first place) and ended all current wars between the AI by forcing capitulation or surrender, I then asked my friends to rejoin after I rehosted the save file after I saved it and the game was able to progress past the OOS time (which is always 5-7days after game load)

If you load the save file I originally attached to the first post of this thread, you will see several revolt wars going on in places like Oman and parts of Africa, particularly liberal revolts/aristocratic revolts, they're currently sitting at 0vs0, because of no barracks being present in both countries, and not enough population to call up conscripts either. They've been stuck like that for more then a decade.

I'm not saying this is the main cause of the OOS issues for other people who have this problem, but its definitely worth taking note of.
 
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Ok but I have solved the issue of the OOS, it appears that the OOS is caused by revolt wars that stalled or don't go anywhere, typically in countries where they have no army units available. I read about the possible cause in another thread on this forum and out of curiousity, open the save file that was bugging out on my end (causing an OOS in the first place) and ended all current wars between the AI by forcing capitulation or surrender, I then asked my friends to rejoin after I rehosted the save file after I saved it and the game was able to progress past the OOS time (which is always 5-7days after game load)

If you load the save file I originally attached to the first post of this thread, you will see several revolt wars going on in places like Oman and parts of Africa, particularly liberal revolts/aristocratic revolts, they're currently sitting at 0vs0, because of no barracks being present in both countries, and not enough population to call up conscripts either. They've been stuck like that for more then a decade.

I'm not saying this is the main cause of the OOS issues for other people who have this problem, but its definitely worth taking note of.

Thank you for the detailed explanation of what you've done to resolve the OOS. In this case, the OOS would be the same as reported previously in the thread below, which has been added to our bug database for review.

We really appreciate your help and patience throughout the back-and-forth of replies, and hope you have a lovely day!