Confirmed Victoria III - Journal entries disappear if you already meet the completion requirements when they activate.

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FocusedHope

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Short summary of your issue
Journal entries disappear if you already meet the completion requirements when they activate.

Game Version
1.1.2

What OS are you playing on?
Windows

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Have you tried verifying your game files?
No

How much "pain" is this causing you?
6

Please explain the issue you experienced in the most condensed way possible
Some journal entries - I've experienced this with Path to Liberalism and the Patronize Art series - will disappear, without completing or giving their reward, if you already meet the completion conditions when you first meet their activation conditions. For example, Path to Liberalism activates when you have a Liberal, Market Liberal, or Radical IG bolstered or in government, and completes when you have that plus 50 legitimacy and Census or Universal Suffrage, at peace with no revolutionary IGs. If you already meet all of those conditions at the first time you have a liberal/radical IG in government, the JE will disappear without giving its completion event or successor JEs.

I've also experienced this with the Patronize Art series of JEs, which can with certain natural play have the same problem. I believe I've also experience this occasionally with Ironclads and Monitors, but my memory isn't clear enough to be certain it happened.

I've only experience this with JEs that appear as potentials with activation conditions, not with JEs that are added to the journal by events. For example, if I've already urbanized Japan when I achieve the Meiji (or Komei) Restoration, the "Restoration - Urbanize Japan" entry will be added to the journal and complete, increasing the Restoration counter as expected.

Please explain how to reproduce the issue
Four different ways to reproduce various examples of this:

Path to Liberalism:
1. Play as the US. Before unpausing, ensure you have a 50 legitimacy government with either Andrew Jackson or the Intelligentsia in government (or both). In my experience on 1.1.2, sometimes this happens randomly, sometimes you're above 45 and you can get above 50 by lowering taxes, sometimes you can reorganize the government to increase legitimacy.
2. Observe the Potential Journal Entries tab; Path to Liberalism is present and has its activation condition met.
3. Unpause for a week.
Expected result: Path to Liberalism should activate and, with all its completion conditions met, complete, which should trigger an event that among other things adds Freedom of Thought and Freedom of Trade to the journal.
Observed result: Path to Liberalism disappears, no event is triggered and no additional JEs are added.

Patronize Romanticism (unrecognized to recognized):
1. Start as an unrecognized power, say Japan. Research Romanticism, then build a level 2 Arts Academy. Make sure by subsidies or by market manipulation that it's fully employed. Patronize Romanticism will not even appear in the Potential JEs section, because you aren't recognized.
2. Before Realism spreads, become recognized. (Japan can do this via naval dominance over whichever GP colonizes Hokkaido and Sakhalin.)
Expected result: when you become recognized, the Patronize Romanticism JE should become possible, should activate, and with its completion condition met, should complete, giving you an event with an option for a research bonus for Realism.
Observed result: the JE does not appear at all, with no possibility for research bonus.
This should also work for Patronize Realist Art, for an unrecognized power that builds a level 5 Arts Academy and researches Realism before becoming recognized.

Patronize Realist Art (immediate PM conversion; this also applies to Camera):
1. As any country, build a level 5 Arts Academy before researching Realism. Ensure that it is fully employed.
2. Start researching Realism, and keep an eye on the research progress. Take note when it's a week away from completion, and pause the game immediately after the research completes. (Actually within the week should be fast enough.)
3. Note the potential JEs; Patronize Realist Art should be potential with all its conditions met, but not yet activated. Switch the PM of all Arts Academies to Realist Art and Independent Artists.
4. Unpause for a week.
Expected result: Patronize Realist Art activates and immediately completes, providing an option for a research bonus to Camera.
Observed result: Patronize Realist Art disappears, with no event, and no possible research bonus.

Ironclads/Monitors:
Basically the same as Patronize Realist Art: start with a navy of > 30 ships; research Gantry Cranes; then research Ironclads. Convert all shipyard and naval base PMs to ironclads before the JE activates, and it'll disappear instead of completing.

Is there anything else you think could help us identify/replicate the issue?


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Hey FocusedHope!

Thank you for your incredibly detailed report on JEs becoming invalidated throughout the game.

While it is normal to have this happen in countries that would immediately complete JEs, such as France with Patronize Romanticism, the described issues are not. I will make sure to have it documented in our bug database.

That being said, we appreciate the help and hope you have an awesome day!
 
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Hey FocusedHope!

Thank you for your incredibly detailed report on JEs becoming invalidated throughout the game.

While it is normal to have this happen in countries that would immediately complete JEs, such as France with Patronize Romanticism, the described issues are not. I will make sure to have it documented in our bug database.

That being said, we appreciate the help and hope you have an awesome day!
Thanks a lot for the response, it's great to know that I'm being heard. Best of luck fixing it!
 
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