Victoria 3 is basically in Early Access, now $15 DLC?
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As a hint: you were talking about Steam in the post I replied to. Which currently stands at 20,155 positive reviews to 9979 negative ones.
But hey, since you like the metric of post reactions here too: yes, that's one post you got more agrees than disagrees. The opposite is true for many other posts you made in this thread, so I can only assume you're carefully taking that feedback into account.
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I never said anything about majority reviews. Thanks for playing and trying to throw a thread off-topic with something irrelevant. Bye!
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You mentioned steam reviews, and now link this like farming post as if it proves anything what so ever. Talk about a dishonest debater sheesh.
What matters more? People’s review of the game itself? Or a forum users ability to score internet points?
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I'm dishonest? I'm not the one saying that criticism of the game is just some misunderstanding of the gaming industry or that I don't have the correct and proper data set to say such a thing. Get real. People aren't happy, and for good reason.
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You stated this, using “a significant portion” of the user base to try and dismiss wilcoxchar’s argument.
It was then pointed out that
Which is when you linked some irrelevant post of yours that had slightly more agree’s than disagrees, as if that carried weight.
You followed up on your antics with this gem.
No crap you never said majority, someone else did as a rebuttal to your initial point using the exact same information you had referenced to dismiss an argument rather than debate it in good faith.
False, according to the data YOU referenced, more than twice as many people who bothered to leave a review of the game are happy as are unhappy.
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Speaking on Steam reviews, I do think they are fairly important to look at. Among all the major Paradox titles the only game with a lower rating than V3 is Imperator (RIP), and while some of V3s numbers could be attributed to review bombing even the recent reviews are still uncharacteristically low for a Paradox game at 65% positive. It's pretty clear that even after the updates thus far a very sizable amount of people are unhappy with the game still.
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Keep this thread on topic, please.
If you have played Vic3 and any other pdx game you know what.Ummmmmmm.... what?
Give Your Opinion on The State of Warfare in CK3
A warfare rework needs to be one of the next major free patch/overhaul due to it being a critical mechanic for the whole game. If you were to rate all the major Paradox GSGs from the past decade based solely on their warfare gameplay/system CK3...forum.paradoxplaza.com
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I agree with the OP's sentiment, even if I disagree on why I feel that Vic 3 is lacking too much basic content to be putting out paid DLCs. That said, maybe just don't buy the DLC if you don't think the game deserves more of you money. Personally, I'll still lurk the forums because I'm interested to see where this potentially great game will go, but I've no intention of spending £13 on France and agitators, or any Vic 3 DLCs for that matter for the foreseeable future.
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Yes, and no. On the one hand, the agitators system is great. It gives players a new way of having agency while allowing the game to also have agency itself. It's a critical component of the main thing this game needs: better politics/diplomacy. It adds a system that combines both in a way that's interesting and creates new emergent gameplay. Also, quite a few of the laws (agrarian land rework, state atheism, one party state) are actually quite historically active and will really overall improve the game experience. Also, it's nice to see them take a more "if you like it, buy it" approach to DLC rather than the ol' early EU4 approach of THIS DLC IS MANDATORY FOR THE GAME TO WORK (looking at you Common Sense).
That being said... the French events are, frankly timid. A lot of events could have interesting logic "mini mechanics", in the way Stelaris has, but instead they have gone for few not super mechanically exciting ways of achieving their goals. Examples of this are the monarchy divide events (which seem weirdly redundant with new features), no accounting for French population stagnation (which could probably be done with a series of difficult journal entries removing state modifiers), and a very barebones French Corsica event (frankly, they need to add trading states for it to work well). Look, the events are better than nothing, but Paradox could probably do better. Frankly, I also think the "law cards" system paradox uses for this game aint great, and the game would benefit from a "law focus tree," but that's more of a subjective thing.
Overall, for a major update coming out this early pretty decent, would buy if you love agitator mechanics.
That being said... the French events are, frankly timid. A lot of events could have interesting logic "mini mechanics", in the way Stelaris has, but instead they have gone for few not super mechanically exciting ways of achieving their goals. Examples of this are the monarchy divide events (which seem weirdly redundant with new features), no accounting for French population stagnation (which could probably be done with a series of difficult journal entries removing state modifiers), and a very barebones French Corsica event (frankly, they need to add trading states for it to work well). Look, the events are better than nothing, but Paradox could probably do better. Frankly, I also think the "law cards" system paradox uses for this game aint great, and the game would benefit from a "law focus tree," but that's more of a subjective thing.
Overall, for a major update coming out this early pretty decent, would buy if you love agitator mechanics.
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