Politics are the governing principles of the nation. Through laws and how you use them, you affect your nations path.
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Victoria 3 | How to Play - Politics
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Well explained, though I think she should have taken (been given?) a bit more time for e.g. which issues are typically, if not necessarily always, supported by whom - not because it isn't obvious to many of us but because if we'Re talking a tutorial, that seems like good information to have.
The effects of the various laws could've definitively been covered as well!
The effects of the various laws could've definitively been covered as well!
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Dang it. Back to very short video length, no in-depth explanations and hard to understand voice.
The previous 3 videos done by PartyElite were wonderful and I already miss him.
The previous 3 videos done by PartyElite were wonderful and I already miss him.
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i admire the nice gui the devs created and some suggestive tooltip information like this may escalate in a war.
Will be waiting to see how chosen option of army model plays out; as stated out before there might be some granularity here lacking.
As you should always be able to field a mixture of low and elite troops in case you prefer, not to mention elite only and having stockpile, oops there is no stockpile.
I will be waiting to see how this is reflected in game by the money, what happens if you have no national arms industry, and all trade get cuts of? Prime example of problem no stockpile, plz someone come with a realistic alternative what to do in this case (building hastely own arms industries doesn't count, who know you have no iron).
Will be waiting to see how chosen option of army model plays out; as stated out before there might be some granularity here lacking.
As you should always be able to field a mixture of low and elite troops in case you prefer, not to mention elite only and having stockpile, oops there is no stockpile.
I will be waiting to see how this is reflected in game by the money, what happens if you have no national arms industry, and all trade get cuts of? Prime example of problem no stockpile, plz someone come with a realistic alternative what to do in this case (building hastely own arms industries doesn't count, who know you have no iron).
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Longer/more in depth videos would be nice, but her voice isn't at all hard to understand? The video's really clear. Weird complaint.
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I'm pretty sure these are videos to teach the basic concepts and mechanics driving the game to people who are new to the series/PDX or play their stuff but don't follow streams and dev diaries like we do, and aren't meant to be comprehensive reference guides. [Edit: Of course, they're also a means of countdown-to-launch marketing hype, which is a good thing.]
Heck, there's 21 different sets of laws in the game, even just listing them all and describing in one or two short lines what each one does (so, not even exploring the options under each) would more than double the length of the video and turn the bulk of it into just one really long recited list of information that would be a thousand times more accessible in the form of a wiki or having the game in hand.
The forum community's at the point where the only information that's new to us is like... comprehensive lists of journal entries, options, effects, variables and modifiers, etc. You can see it other places, too, like when people complain during the stream about the end of a tooltip that's flashed for half a second getting cut off by the facecam because it means they can't pause and read it in full or take screenshots.
Meanwhile, I've got a friend who loves Paradox games, is excited to play Victoria 3, but he has enough going on that he hasn't followed it that closely. He's been watching every one of these videos as they come out and every day or two so far, he's told me how much he likes certain systems or concepts that were featured in the video and how stoked he is to try it out. That's what these are meant to do.
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I had trouble making out what she was saying enough to need to enable subtitles. Too often a few quickly spoken words melted together into something unintelligible.
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In that case youre screwed and need to change production methods of Barracks to irregulars, unless you establish new trade or get really lucky. Which is fine. There's no reason that nations without either a domestic arms industry or stable arms imports from multiple countries should necessarily be able to beat a country that does have those things in open conflict. It also means that seeking the protection of a Great Power is a viable player strategy, instead of saying "I'm the player and thats for NPCs".
The strategy instead would be to join the customs union of a larger market, use access to their goods to build your own industrial base and diversify your economy and develop your nation enough to have enough diplo capacity to start trade agreements and improve relations with other nations. Then when youre ready, declare independence.
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In that case youre screwed is actually admitting that with current gameplay design you are limited in how you want to play.
It would actually be so much fun also in multiplayer when someone has more 'prepared' than you for the longer conflict.
My purpose of the post was to portray finding at least a 'middle ground' to look for adoption of stockpiling mechanics.
I am confident to be able to work out an improved way of price dynamics, however this would take a lot of work and reviewing process flows.
But i'm even willing to abandon my point of view and really hope that modding is as such open source, an economic overhaul mod can be made.
Im so worried about this aspect also limited modding when looking at eu4 the trade flow streams; apparently with modding it can't be changed!
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Not for me - I didn't even need to reduce speed here to understand her clearly as a non-native English speaker (which I needed to do for the ones of PartyElite, while I had to mute Ezekiel Cohen and relied on subtitles). I guess its just subjective; everyone does a vid different and everyone listening/viewing has different preferences - and despite formentioned differences I'm thankful to all of the three that they do these videos, which help to shorten the waiting time
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@SvenskaSuper Of course you are limited in how you play. A game is a game instead of imagination or just interactive software because it is made of limitations. Limitations are only bad when theyre arbitrary and unfun.
The existence of stockpiles is already implied by certain parts of the game, e.g. when food becomes unavailable due to trade deficit, your pops dont all immediately starve in 2 weeks. When guns are no longer produced or imported, the efficacy of armies declines at a steady rate until its severely declined but not entirely gone, implying the existence of stockpiles that are being depleted at a certain rate. And then you can switch to Irregular PM for Barracks, suggesting scraping the bottom of the barrel and rationing the scraps to still put up some kind of fight.
Stockpiling is just not currently an interactive, player-directed part of gameplay. Right now you are arguing that it should be in the game because its absence makes it impossible to use a strategy from Vicky2. You need to instead demonstrate that it was common enough to the era to actively stockpile goods without selling or consuming them when theyre available, which I personally have no idea about, and then argue that this is important to represent in game.
I have no opinion about the removal or reimplementation of stockpiles eithet way.
The existence of stockpiles is already implied by certain parts of the game, e.g. when food becomes unavailable due to trade deficit, your pops dont all immediately starve in 2 weeks. When guns are no longer produced or imported, the efficacy of armies declines at a steady rate until its severely declined but not entirely gone, implying the existence of stockpiles that are being depleted at a certain rate. And then you can switch to Irregular PM for Barracks, suggesting scraping the bottom of the barrel and rationing the scraps to still put up some kind of fight.
Stockpiling is just not currently an interactive, player-directed part of gameplay. Right now you are arguing that it should be in the game because its absence makes it impossible to use a strategy from Vicky2. You need to instead demonstrate that it was common enough to the era to actively stockpile goods without selling or consuming them when theyre available, which I personally have no idea about, and then argue that this is important to represent in game.
I have no opinion about the removal or reimplementation of stockpiles eithet way.
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sorry but either you are paid by prdx to defend current game design or simply fail to grasp that having no stockpiles at all is is not the same as the attrition modifiers you mention. Because when two identical nations a and b separated from each other end up in a war of attrrition they will have equal attrition modifier which simply not the same as one of them is better prepared eg. has higher stockpile levels.
Pops not dying immediately is a good attrition modifier to maskerade their personal stock levels but im not aiming to granularity on a pop stock level but for more broad meta metrics where strategical economic and investment is more reflected unfortunately for some hard to understand simple but again stupid concept of a stockpile.
Eg. a steel factory complex needs coal to keep doing its work.
Forget about vic2 the imbalance there because of stockpiling could be altered by a tiny change. But as you want to argue so hard and determined i can tell you that the i probably will not be the only player who doesnt like the absence of this game mechanic.
In that case thank you for your supportive quenching of a player voice
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Yes I am being paid, but if you want to negotiate a bit I will consider accepting your money instead to support the addition of stockpiles.
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At least you admit, i cant afford you i think..
Ok anyway for now lets see what happens, maybe against all the odds a mod
Check out "The Great War" creators with their series on WW1 on youtube - nations didn't have huge weapons stockpiles even when they were actively seeking war, because they expected any war wouldn't be more costly than the last - but unless it was just a skirmish it were.
So adding the ability to stockpile weapons should defo be added as a law that's popular with jingoists but gives your nation infamy. (Since gathering that large stockpiles are an extremely warmongering act, akin to mobilizing - plus large parts of your country might prefer to see less guns and more butter.)
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I appreciate it that you see an ability to integrate stockpiles!
As apparantly you are so in to history i don't know if the great war creators also mentioned the dynamics not only by stockpiling but by choice of weaponry: the chemical biological warfare deployment and built up of japan in their invasion within china has actually got its seeding ground from ww1!
the japanese actually saw the need to step into that field. I just deliver this info to put what is a warmongering act in perspective. That devs like in hoi4 decide not to introduce such gameplay things and other terrible war aspects is fully acceptable, understandable by me (to contrast i accept the fact its a game not real time simulation efford).
It seems concievable that there would be a mod adding buildings just called "Stockpile", and when prices get sufficiently low they consume a portion of different types of goods (military, food, raw material) depending on the production method activated. Im not sure if its possible to stop a building from immediately outputting, but if so the idea would be that when prices get prohibitively high, the stockpile sells them at the 0% rate instead of the current price.At least you admit, i cant afford you i think..
Ok anyway for now lets see what happens, maybe against all the odds a mod
No idea if this is possible. Might make more sense to mod stockpiling as a capacity, with Stockpile buildings increasing stockpiling capacity by consuming amounts of money that match the 0% price of military goods. The higher the capacity, the lower the attrition penalties for not having a type of good. But this would be a very weird and probably messy intervention in the existing economic sim.
when coal + iron go into steel factory = steel this can be mirorred in a simple process flow two steps create an end result.
decypher the process flow with the hidden mechanics how profit is generated is way harder. All you can hope for all is moddable and open source
when the stockpile 'issue' is been cleared. i would like to top it off by researching how to determine somehow a cost of transportation when a piece of coal mined in walloon (belgium) is sold to local steel factory or a factory in india.