Vicky I enhanced version à la FtG and AoD?

[unmerged(26425)]

We have it for EU2 - For the Glory, we have it for Hoi2 - Arsenal of Democracy / Iron cross; will we get it for Vicky 1? An enhanced version of this classic would be just lovely! Instead of working on a VIP for Vicky 2 an enhanced Vicky 1 is called for. OHgamer?

 

[Orm]

There was talk about it, and I think OHgamer was involved in some of it, but he seems to be spending all his time over in the Vicky2 forum now so it's looking bleak.

 

[unmerged(26425)]

There was talk about it, and I think OHgamer was involved in some of it, but he seems to be spending all his time over in the Vicky2 forum now so it's looking bleak.

Sad if that is true - you just have to browse through a small number of posts in the V2 forum to see that there is a consumer need [not subsistence need but certainly part of the everyday needs of the public] for such an enhanced version of V1. People miss popmanagement amongst other things - was it not just lovely to manage, split and nurture those cute little pops? *nostalgic*. I like Vicky2 and Vicky1 - they are just different and it would be nice to once again enjoy the things you miss from Vicky1 when you play Vicky2 in a refined and enhanced version. The exact same rationale brought FtG and AoD to the market!

 

[unmerged(36774)]

I definetly would like to see something like this done. If I had more spare time, I would be glad to participate myself.

Anyone working for this have my support anyway

 

[unmerged(26425)]

That is the spirit! I might help out as well. Got a PhD in history

 

[Sardoniscorn]

This would be a fantastically amazing thing, but I have pretty much resigned myself to it never being brought to fruition.

 

[Andrelvis]

I hope one comes out. More Vicky can't be bad

 

[naggy]

Might want to find out how well those titles sold before you start thinking what a great idea it was. I seem to remember someone at Paradox saying that FtG was a sales disappointment.

 

[EUnderhill]

Might want to find out how well those titles sold before you start thinking what a great idea it was. I seem to remember someone at Paradox saying that FtG was a sales disappointment.

I think that was from someone trying to put a positive spin on things. I think the best hope is that when the Clauswitz engine gets opened up like the Europa engine is, the Europa engine will be put out to pasture - ie available for a token fee, no NDA needed (nothing worth protecting left), no prior experience necessary.

 

[Andrelvis]

Might want to find out how well those titles sold before you start thinking what a great idea it was. I seem to remember someone at Paradox saying that FtG was a sales disappointment.

FtG wasn't much different from EU2, but AoD, IIRC, sold reasonably well.

 

[MannheimCouncil]

As I can't play Vicky II with my current system I would be very interested in something like that. It's a pity that OHgamer's CLIO map is probably off-limits now that they used it in V2.

 

[lizardo]

the only reason there is a 'nostalgic' need to manage pops is that the tools for managing the nation in V2 are so poor.

 

[unmerged(227863)]

the only reason there is a 'nostalgic' need to manage pops is that the tools for managing the nation in V2 are so poor.

Yup. Everyone's ranting about how annoying it was to manually promote POPs, presumably they're happy with craftsmen promotion being seemingly random, making it nearly impossible to build an industry if you're certain countries, not to mention 25% soldiers, 20% beaurocrat, etc.
And who misses enourmous factories hiring 100,000 people, making £1,000 a day, shutting down because it made a loss of -0.5 for one day.

 

[Andrelvis]

Well, manually converting POPs was annoying. At the very least, unemployed farmers and labourers should automatically convert to craftsmen if there are factory jobs available.

 

[Dragonknight2]

Well, manually converting POPs was annoying. At the very least, unemployed farmers and labourers should automatically convert to craftsmen if there are factory jobs available.

Yeah, try Russia or China for a few years...its insane.

 

[unmerged(227863)]

Yeah, try Russia or China for a few years...its insane.

Done both. I even ran out of national culture POPs as China in one game. I used to have charts of my economic growth rates but that was a few formats ago.
It was a damn good game.

 

[unmerged(26425)]

Cute poppies come back to daddy and do what daddy say! Poppies are naughty and don't do what daddy tell them to do in Vicky 2! Naughty poppies not good!
*insane*

 

[HMS Enterprize]

Well, manually converting POPs was annoying. At the very least, unemployed farmers and labourers should automatically convert to craftsmen if there are factory jobs available.

Only really for China/Russia. I actually didnt mind it at all and kinda missed it in V2-which I dont really play at the moment for various reasons....The manual POP promotion was no more tedious than trying to figure out why POPs are doing half the things they randomly do in V2. V2 has put too much control in the hands of the AI. I used to hate it in V1 when the AI would keep building glass factories and building high-tech factories in my most spartan provinces but thats peanuts to the randomness you get in V2.