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OK, the Germans took over France, and made the Vichy state.
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No troops or planes in Vichy France or Vichy Africa after 1 year. :(
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No troops or planes in Vichy France or Vichy Africa after 2 years. :mad:
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No troops except in Vichy Indochina, which the British attack over time and take over soon anyway becasue at the most, the Vichy government scratched up 5, yes, 5 total divisions in the entire game, which may have been there from Free France in the first place.
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What gives? Why isn't anything going on in Europe Vichy related? I send my entire fleet to guard the Mediterranean, then send convoy after convoy as the U.S.A. and flood the underbelly of Fortress Europe...too easy get ashore and to hold that land because theres no defenders short of a few Italian and German troops that happened to be walking around in the area.
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Does the Super A.I/C.O.R.E. fix this or what mod make the Vichy government worth a bag o' beans in the game? :confused:
 

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I agree that Vichy isn't working well now. But one change is that Vichy is neutral when it is created. This means that the Allies can't attack it without getting a big dissent penalty for the DOW. This provides them with some protection until 1942 when the USA is in the war. Germany then occupies all of France and is responsible for defending it.

Andrew
 

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Or late 1939 when USA is in the war because Germany conquered Poland, Belgium, France, Netherlands, Denmark and Yugoslavia early.

Let's see, IRL, Germany conquered all those nations, plus Norway, plus Greece, plus invading the USSR, and STILL the USA wasn't close to joining the war, but in this game, conquer Poland and France and US WE jumps an alarming 50 or so. I believe it went from 47 to 95 in our game. Now, for it to be at 47% in January 1939 when Germany hasn't done ANYTHING already strains credulity, but to jump like that? Where was that jump IRL?

A lot of systems in the game are screwed up.

Yes, Vichy is bad. I love knowing that after Vichy, there are 87 French divisions running around. 87. UK doesn't need to make infantry. It gets 87 free divisions.

Movement penalty. Those 87 divisions are alive because they run faster than my tanks can drive, so they could not be encircled. They simply outran the panzers to safety. Oh well.

Crack. This game is crack. I am so hooked.
 

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HerrGeneral said:
Yes, Vichy is bad. I love knowing that after Vichy, there are 87 French divisions running around. 87. UK doesn't need to make infantry. It gets 87 free divisions.
You shouldn't be too scared of the French army if it manages to evacuate successfully. They won't be much stronger than they were when they failed to hold France. And they have no manpower reserves to back them up so will soon be attritioned if in heavy combat. And the UK has to know what it's doing to to keep them well-supplied.

Andrew