Vichy France and puppetry

[Louella]

So, I played a game as Germany, one thing leads to another, and Vichy France is created, and... it's a Colony, and the autonomy progress shows it is midway between puppet and Dominion.

But those are not the autonomy states that Vichy should have. It should be either a Reichsprotectorate or Reichskommisariat. - looking at the autonomous_states file, it shouldn't even be possible for a fascist country (Germany) to have a Colony level subject state.


Now, has this happened to anyone else ? Is it something in the mod that I was using, that created this peculiar situation ?

 

[Dlin369]

Which mods are you using?

 

[CharlesV]

I'm not sure, but one thing that always surprises me is Paradox's willingness to break game rules for historical accuaracy (see EUIV and the Dutch Revolt). It might just be more historical as a colony so they decided "fuck it" and put it in.

 

[jpapple]

I think that's a bug with the event, because you make Vichy France through an event instead of the standard peace deal... Maybe it's somewhere in the event a modifier that makes Vichy France a colony instead of a Reichkommisariat.

 

[Louella]

Which mods are you using?

Just Vanilla+.

Maybe it's somewhere in the event a modifier that makes Vichy France a colony instead of a Reichkommisariat.

Could be, I took a look at the event ( France.14) and it uses the puppet command, but without setting a particular autonomy level. So I'm wondering if it's that.

Has anyone noticed this in a standard game without any mods ?

I think I'll look at the event for Japan puppeting Siam later, see if there's a difference.

 

[NVI]

Is Vichy France democratic by any chance? In my experience used autonomy levels seem to depend on the ideology of the subject, not the master.

 

[jpapple]

Is Vichy France democratic by any chance? In my experience used autonomy levels seem to depend on the ideology of the subject, not the master.

Vichy France always becomes the master's ideology in the event

 

[NVI]

Vichy France always becomes the master's ideology in the event

Well I was thinking it's Vanilla+, maybe it's different. Haven't played the mod myself.

 

[Louella]

It's been explained that it's because the Vanilla+ mod has Vichy France as Non Aligned rather than Fascist.

Just thought it was quite odd.

 

[Forster]

I think this occurs based on decisions made when Germany conquers the allies. I just had something like that happen in the game I am in now. Really shot myself in the foot with some of my decisions.

 

[Duke_Dave]

Its because of the mod.
You can have puppets with a different system if you change ideology, because the puppet won't. During my Austria-Hungary run I became fascist so had a lot of fascist puppets, switched to communism and created some communist puppets and finally back to non-alligned and made further puppets that way. Good times.