Ventian Sea

[Aries666]

Target is to get 90% trade power in Constaninople and Alexandria with 10 or fewer provinces as Venice.

I have 10 provinces including the centres of trade/estuaries in the required nodes. Vassals control all the Balkans, Greece, Anatolia, Middle East, Eygpt and I have a HRE vassal that I am using to reduce HRE merchant spam. My dip tech is high enough to get tier 6 trade buildings and currently using early frigates for trade, naval FL ~100. I have 70% share in both nodes, my competitors have 200-300 trade power in these nodes meaning I need to get up to 3000 trade power in the nodes.

Even with dip tech 26, great frigates is this even realistic? Has anyone done this in 1.8 as it seems downstream transfers have gotten stronger?

Knocking Spain out of the Genoa node is on my to do list, wiping out the Hansa and some other HRE states helped in Constaninople. But it still seems like getting that last 20% is going to be difficult if not impossible.

Any thoughts? My back up plan is to create a CN then release my vassals in the nodes giving their territory to the CN but this can't be the intended way to get the achievement.

 

[anomalacaris]

Trade propagation is so crazy right now, I am not even going to try...
Also, it might be better to let some enemies control these lands? So you can occupy them during war and contribute for your trading power without surpassing your land limit.

 

[Wildcat_PL]

IIRC try having less then 10 provinces. Own only 9 - that was the case in previous versions. The description is misleading.

 

[hwoosh]

Haven't tried for this achievement myself, but try releasing some of those vassals in the relevant trade nodes, boosting relations with them, and getting them to transfer trade power to you?

 

[Aries666]

Haven't tried for this achievement myself, but try releasing some of those vassals in the relevant trade nodes, boosting relations with them, and getting them to transfer trade power to you?

That could work although the "our leige abandoned us" malus is pretty hefty IIRC. My vassal per se aren't really the issue they account for ~100 trade power in the nodes its the sheer number of nations siphoning 5-50 trade power. I am working on reducing the number of nations in western Europe but it's a thankless task!

 

[ChildeR]

Is there anyone large enough that getting a 60% TP peace deal would significantly affect the balance? E.g. someone with half the "other" TP giving 60% to you would drop your own power required by about a third.

Also, are you at naval FL? You should be able to go significantly over it.

 

[Aries666]

Spain is the largest with 70 trade power in Alexandria representing <10% total. I haven't pushed fully with light ships yet. I still have a 60 strong galley fleet which I will get rid of after I have pushed the Spanish out of the Genoa node. My FL is ~100 so I can probably easily reach 200 which with great frigates would generate 1400 trade power just not sure that's enough.

 

[hwoosh]

Yeah, if you're just after the achievement I see no reason not to go deeply in debt to spam hundreds of light ships.

 

[AurochsAway]

Have you thought of finding an East African nation that has Indian tech and making it a protectorate? You could then sell it all the land your vassals currently have. It'd be easier than a CN.

 

[Aries666]

Have you thought of finding an East African nation that has Indian tech and making it a protectorate? You could then sell it all the land your vassals currently have. It'd be easier than a CN.

I hadn't thought of that thanks but with westerisation being so easy I would lose the trade power bonus if they were to westernise, still a viable option. This achievement is proving to be a lot more trouble than I expected.