I don't think it is possible to decide where crusades should go as a player, and invasions are something completely different (nothing about faith, and all about being a smaller realm and best friends with the pope). Or am I wrong about the crusades?
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I don't think it is possible to decide where crusades should go as a player, and invasions are something completely different (nothing about faith, and all about being a smaller realm and best friends with the pope). Or am I wrong about the crusades?
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I started as the count of Obertallo, (SP), vassal to the pope. I holy war-ed for Sardinia twice as well as having a humble/content/zealous ruler. As soon as I had 500 piety, the pope granted me an invasion of Venice. Venice had nabbed a few coastal counties, so I was was not over the realm limit with Sardinia.
Once I had Venice, I still had a spare 500 piety. So I took Croatia. Once I had Croatia, the penalties had gone from Venice, and I had another 500 piety. I took Hungary. By now I was rich from sieges and Venice, but weak from recently conquered modifiers everywhere. I then was granted an invasion of the HRE. I was about to go from count to emperor, renamed 'conqueror' four times in a single ruler! Alas my first ruler died, and HRE slipped from my grasp.
I played a benevolent peaceful ruler for two generations. Sorting our De Jure land, holding feasts and hunts. Building splendid castles, sorting out laws and educating heirs. My realm was the richest, strongest and peaceful nation. Then my son inherited a claim on France
The pope granted me an invasion CB. I took France when my son inherited. My realm was slightly bigger then the HRE, so I gave land to the pope so he loved me, and for the Peity. My land-bribed pope granted me an invasion of the HRE. Here is me on the eve of declaring peace and adding the HRE to Venice. I say this is the furthest I took Venice, as afterwards I was the HRE. I had the best of Europe as my fourth ruler, in 1172, as Venice.
It was my intent to be a Titular nation. I had the Titular duchy of Slovakia (From Hungary), titular Kingdom of Venice and was going to make titular Latin empire. Sadly the Byzantines never died, so I change my eastern ambitions for western glory.
I feel that Venice is the loveliest colour to paint the world.
I started as the count of Obertallo, (SP), vassal to the pope. I holy war-ed for Sardinia twice as well as having a humble/content/zealous ruler. As soon as I had 500 piety, the pope granted me an invasion of Venice. Venice had nabbed a few coastal counties, so I was was not over the realm limit with Sardinia.
Once I had Venice, I still had a spare 500 piety. So I took Croatia. Once I had Croatia, the penalties had gone from Venice, and I had another 500 piety. I took Hungary. By now I was rich from sieges and Venice, but weak from recently conquered modifiers everywhere. I then was granted an invasion of the HRE. I was about to go from count to emperor, renamed 'conqueror' four times in a single ruler! Alas my first ruler died, and HRE slipped from my grasp.
I played a benevolent peaceful ruler for two generations. Sorting our De Jure land, holding feasts and hunts. Building splendid castles, sorting out laws and educating heirs. My realm was the richest, strongest and peaceful nation. Then my son inherited a claim on France
The pope granted me an invasion CB. I took France when my son inherited. My realm was slightly bigger then the HRE, so I gave land to the pope so he loved me, and for the Peity. My land-bribed pope granted me an invasion of the HRE. Here is me on the eve of declaring peace and adding the HRE to Venice. I say this is the furthest I took Venice, as afterwards I was the HRE. I had the best of Europe as my fourth ruler, in 1172, as Venice.
It was my intent to be a Titular nation. I had the Titular duchy of Slovakia (From Hungary), titular Kingdom of Venice and was going to make titular Latin empire. Sadly the Byzantines never died, so I change my eastern ambitions for western glory.
I feel that Venice is the loveliest colour to paint the world.
In my latest game the Fatimids won a Jihad against Italy. A few years later a crusade was called and Venice won. The HRE took a few duchies back but Venice is still very strong. They have a ton of cash and continue to expand around Croatia. I've never seen Venice bigger than 3-5 counties in any of my games so this is really cool. Hopefully they keep Italy as both the HRE and Fatimids are on their heels.
I think Venice starts with 5 holdings so any count or duke with less than 5 holdings would work. You don't need to be an opm to get an invasion on Venice.
Haven't test this one, but see whether it works:
1. Let Venice becomes dejure kingdom
2. Conquer Venice County
3. Give it to a heathen / heretic, make him a Lord Mayor. Make sure he have 200 piety
4. Give him 2 duchy & 400 gold.
5. After he created the title, imprison & banish, suck up the tyrant modifier
1. Let Venice becomes dejure kingdom
2. Conquer Venice County
3. Give it to a heathen / heretic, make him a Lord Mayor. Make sure he have 200 piety
4. Give him 2 duchy & 400 gold.
5. After he created the title, imprison & banish, suck up the tyrant modifier
That's too bad. Hope the Republic DLC will prompt the AI to do so
Italy was invaded by the Fatimids in my current game. I won the crusade against them, then fabricated a claim on Venice, then I handed it to one of my Muslim vassals.
Holy cow, the money. Since that Muslim became a Doge and since Venice was still catholic, he got that special Muslim tax (+25?), and paid me 200g taxes per year. Yes, that single Doge paid me more in taxes than all feudal lords under me in 10 years.
Holy cow, the money. Since that Muslim became a Doge and since Venice was still catholic, he got that special Muslim tax (+25?), and paid me 200g taxes per year. Yes, that single Doge paid me more in taxes than all feudal lords under me in 10 years.
Yes looking forward to a trading city state DLC, hopefully be an interesting perspective.