Venice in the HRE?

[Jaqwon_The_Chef]

I'm currently in a game as venice and have a few questions

1: How does the "Your nation is too large to join the Empire..." mechanic work? Is it based on tax base?

2: Would I be able to create a Vassal and then feed them provinces until the HRE allowed me to join?

3: Can Republics become the HRE?

 

[MadDjinn]

in theory it's possible to feed provinces to vassals to get small enough (both Denmark and Poland can join the HRE at the beginning), but the key to joining the HRE is to make Austria like you. If Austria (or the Emperor if Austria loses it early) doesn't like you (it's says how much is needed) then you'll never join the HRE.

 

[kelden]

Just finished a game as Venice, you can sell Crete to Naxos to become small enough to join the HRE. Don't forget you need to get the relation up high enough, alliance, guaranteeing independence, increase relation and then a war should be enough. You might need to give a gift though.

 

[Golladan]

100 + 2 * Base tax = amount of relations with Emperor to join HRE. So if you're over 50 base tax you need to get rid of provinces.

Republics can't be Emperor unless you Proclaim Erbkaisertum.

 

[Jaqwon_The_Chef]

Thanks good info I'll try the Crete to naxos strategy. Dang, Republics really can't become the emporer? Any ways to get rid of republican tradition quick so i can go for monarchy?

 

[grisamentum]

Thanks good info I'll try the Crete to naxos strategy. Dang, Republics really can't become the emporer? Any ways to get rid of republican tradition quick so i can go for monarchy?

Just re-elect same leader and always choose -tradition choices in events. You should be able to get rid of your republic within 50 years without any problems, depending on event luck. You even get free +stability for some of the -tradition events.

 

[Incompetent]

Just re-elect same leader and always choose -tradition choices in events. You should be able to get rid of your republic within 50 years without any problems, depending on event luck. You even get free +stability for some of the -tradition events.

I'll just add to this that it's a good idea to take Plutocratic ideas before you kill the republic, as first or second idea group (you don't have to fill it up straight away), as it's a very good idea group that will no longer be available to select once you are a monarchy. Once you've selected an idea group though, you keep it forever regardless of government changes.

 

[Jaqwon_The_Chef]

Interesting. The Venitian Enlightened Despots will rule The Holy Roman Empire forever!

 

[Jaqwon_The_Chef]

Any ideas on where/how to expand once I'm in the HRE?

 

[aragonFTW]

Any ideas on where/how to expand once I'm in the HRE?

You have a ton of options. Urbino and south-east coast of italy, burn northeast into Hungary/Poland/Lithuania, annex Genoa if they are still about, and you will get some interesting missions pushing you towards Mamluk Egypt too.

 

[Cohacq]

Any ideas on where/how to expand once I'm in the HRE?

Form Italy. Take Suez. Colonize India!