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makaramus

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Now I planning to play monarchy venice and I am currently at abysmall rate .
so here is the question: I want to form italy late game currently %80 of grece. I plan to conquer balkans as italy after formation. ottomans are heavly broken when they dowed albenia with their general and hungary we destroyed them

should I take plutocratic idea group before becoming monarchy? or should I ignore it?
 

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It depends on your goal. Plutocratic is an oddball ideagroup. While it's mil idea, it'd pretty weak one. It's more an economy idea with mil flavour. It does have some decent policies.
 

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It depends on your goal. Plutocratic is an oddball ideagroup. While it's mil idea, it'd pretty weak one. It's more an economy idea with mil flavour. It does have some decent policies.
Well I was considering it because its giving %10 morale. like defensive :D Also unrest is very good :p
well I did pick when answer came delayed but as I can I do not regret it :D also its good with mercs wich I am using at early game :)
 

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If your goal is to form Italy and conquer the Balkans I would suggest not choosing Plutocratic ideas. If you are planning to become a monarchy presumably you would have to take Plutocratic early, and there are more important choices for the early game, such as Influence, Administrative, Humanist, Defensive.
 

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Well I was considering it because its giving %10 morale. like defensive :D Also unrest is very good :p
well I did pick when answer came delayed but as I can I do not regret it :D also its good with mercs wich I am using at early game :)
If you pick solely for morale, you have pick poorly. Defensive gives 15% and other mil goodies. While plutocratic is more I want a bit mil, better eco and some unrest reduction. It a jack of all trades ideagroup while it doesn't shine compare to other focussed one.
 

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If you pick solely for morale, you have pick poorly. Defensive gives 15% and other mil goodies. While plutocratic is more I want a bit mil, better eco and some unrest reduction. It a jack of all trades ideagroup while it doesn't shine compare to other focussed one.
ok here is what I am planning to do:
my next idea picks gonna be in order are:
1)innovative
2)quality
3)Offansive
4)Trade/diplo
5)diplo/trade(one that I didnt pick last time)

I did pick it because I need some unrest bonus for balkans :/
morale is good unrest is great and production is amazing since its not efficency only. merc discipline is allways great to have and 1 more merchant is amazing with new trade policies so I can gain bonus in war :)

only thing I regret is venice cant trigger gem trade for constantinapol making me sad :(
WHY THAT MODIFIER IS NOT ONLY FOR HIS CAPITAL :D
 

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should I take plutocratic idea group before becoming monarchy? or should I ignore it?

plutocratic early on can be good but for a blobbing italy game i'd go for admin+influence first.

if your goal is slow trade oriented game then do it.