How does this work? Sometimes they fabricate claims, most of the time they don't. I look at their diplomacy screen and their diplomats are doing nothing?
Vassals not fabricating claims?
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I'm playing as Sweden, my Orthodox vassal Finland (which doesn't actually own any Finnish culture provinces) has create half a dozen claims all along it's long border with Muscovy. I think what makes the difference is that they seem to make claims only on their overlord's rivals (Muscovy is my rival) and perhaps on provinces which are not cores, but of their primary culture
More often then not they will fabricate on your rivals, but the most reliable thing I've encountered is to give them a piece of land in a peace deal. After that they will seemingly consistently fabricate claims on that nation, rival or not.
Na that's not true at all, this is entirely my problem. I am feeding Navarra all of Iberia but they are not fabricating on Portugal or Castile. I think the others are right because I do remember them fabricating on Castile when they were my rival but now they do not. I guess a solution would be to keep one province (the one with lowest base tax), fabricate claim, sell to Navarra. Usually I just no claim war though, 1 stability isn't that much of a big deal.
I haven't had any luck whatsoever in having vassals fabricate new claims on anyone but my rivals, sadly. I just work on the assumption that they won't unless they border a rival these days.
Can definetly confirm that the culture bit doesn't apply. I gave Bulgaria a single province (the one adjoining Constantinople) and it fabricated claims on every turking neighbouring province. Even forged one to that one province of Candar it had water access.
They're very spotty. As Venice I vassalized BYZ and used it to eat the turks, but after getting maybe 1/3 of turkish land, it stopped claiming more. I annex them, released a turkish vassal, and it started fabricating claims again. When Byz stopped claiming new land, it accepted turkish, but when it began, it claimed turkish land without accepting it. So I'm mystified. Likewise I used Syria to eat the Mamelukes, but that guy claimed everything until the day I annexed him, including Egyptian and Nubian provinces, all muslim while he was reformed. It was glorious.
I'm suspecting their rulers personality also plays a role. Militaristic might spam those claims all around, while diplo orientated ruler won't.
Yes it is true that it is the most reliable thing I've encountered. Emphasis me. Sometimes there is no claims, sometimes claims on rivals, sometimes claims on everyone, but most times I've noted if they are not already fabricating, they will start if I give them land in a peace deal.
i think so too. You got to make militaristic nations your vassal, and hope they get militaristic king. When i vassalised kazan, it spammed claims non stop, since its militaristic nation. But not sure on this.
Anyways, militaristic nations are Obvious. Milan. Burgundy. Brandenburg. Kazan. I suppose any nation with militaristic national idea sets and traditions will spam claims all over.
I would have said 'rivals only', but Provence, which I hold in personal union, keeps fabricating on France despite the fact that France de-rivaled me (and caused me to lose them as a rival) over a decade ago.
It's what vassals do, it's so they aren't totally lame like they used to be.
Remember that countries also get claims by event, so situations where you think they are fabricating, they might not be.
I'm pretty sure when they have new claims on pretty much every French province bordering them (~7 provinces), it's not by event.
Playing Bohemia, I had Brandenburg as vassal for > 150 years but they did not fabricate single claim. Saxony expanded for a while before I vassalized them so I could feed them cores they made before. In general, I never saw a vassal to fabricate new claims, they stopped to actively expand once vassalized. I could only feed them cores from the past, or when awakening dead nations like Guyenne, Croatia, Styria.
That might have something to do with the HRE though.
I catch and release Guyenne, ever game, even as Byzantium, and they claim every French province they border, France is normally my rival by then though, they keep claiming them and reclaiming as they fade.
As well as Finland, one of my other vassals has been fabricating claims on Poland, another rival of mine (I'm Sweden). On thing that may be influencing this - all my vassals' claims have been made on provinces which are an accepted culture for them
I looked at my campaign again and have to correct myself. Neither Brandenburg nor Saxony forged any single claim indeed. But I also have Tirol as vassal that I forced Austria to release so they did not have any claims or cores in other provinces from the past. But now I can see they forged 4 claims in neighbouring provinces (in Switzerland + Venice). Tirol has militaristic leader as well as Brandenburg. Those new claims are all in different cultures. It puzzles me as well.