Vassals become independant after destroying Kingdom title

[Chunakun]

I don't know if this bug has been posted before. I am playing current version of the game 2.4.1 checksum ZXPB. The issue is that if you have multiple Kingdoms or Empires and try to destroy one vassals of the destroyed one become independant.

First Example:
- I am King of Germany and Bavaria, but primogeniture.
- I decide to destroy the Kingdom of Bavaria
- Most Dukes from the destroyed Kingdom become independant

Second Example:
- I am Emperor of Latin Empire and Byzantine Empire (obviously cheated to check this bug)
- I decide to destroy the Byzantine Empire
- Almost all the Dukes of the Byzantine Empire become independant, unless I create the Kingdom Titles (Greece, Anatolia etc)

I have all mayor DLC's except sunset invasion, have bought no unit packs but do have some portrait DLC's

No mods active.

 

[wildcat_paris]

it sounds WAD to me... as you don't have an empire in your first case to englobe the dukes from the destroyed Bavaria, and 2nd case, there is no title higher than emperor, you are breaking your Byzantine emperor title, you have set free the HRE vassals

 

[Chunakun]

it sounds WAD to me... as you don't have an empire in your first case to englobe the dukes from the destroyed Bavaria, and 2nd case, there is no title higher than emperor, you are breaking your Byzantine emperor title, you have set free the HRE vassals

Do you mean WAD as in patch 2.4.1? Because I have destroyed many Kingdoms in the 2 years I have been playing CK2.

 

[BaZERGer]

Seems unlikely to be be intended, the confirmation message when clicking destroy contains the line "All de jure vassals of the kingdom of (name) will be upset", it doesn't say you'll lose the vassals that are part of it, nor do there seem to be any mention in the patch notes about a change like that.

 

[Dracko81]

it sounds WAD to me...

No, independence must be earned or granted.

 

[Kogak]

I've encountered a similar issue now that I think upon it. When I restore the Roman Empires, it stats that the "byzantine empire will be destroyed" or something to that effect. Several vassals (specifically most that are not de jure Byzantine/Rome) become independent and I lose a good 1/3 or so of my empire... including lands *required* to recreate Rome. I'm lookin' at you Antioch and Jerusalem.

 

[rageair]

I think this issue might have been fixed internally, but I'd like to take a look at your save if possible!

 

[Chunakun]

I think this issue might have been fixed internally, but I'd like to take a look at your save if possible!

I don't have the examples I was talking about anymore but I consoled a new situation where I started as Ludwig the German and console gave himthe Kingdoms of Italy and Bavaria, some prestige, cash and piety and changed all the laws to Primogeniture.

This link provides a picture before destructing the Kingdoms of Italy and Bavaria: http://speedy.sh/wZ296/ck2-20.png
second link after destruction: http://speedy.sh/45eAm/ck2-22.png
third link shows the vassals as independant on the map but somehow they are still vassals of Ludwig: http://speedy.sh/9xXKf/ck2-23.png
If you quit and reload the vassals are definitely independant: http://speedy.sh/AzcV7/ck2-24.png

and here is the link for the save game after destruction: http://speedy.sh/WpJ4P/East-Francia867-01-01.ck2

 

[rageair]

By following your steps; starting as Ludwig, giving myself Bavaria & Italy and subsequently changing them to primogeniture and destroying them, I seem to be unable to reproduce your issue. This leads me to believe that this issue has been fixed internally, and should reach you in the next patch.

 

[Chunakun]

Ok. I'm looking forward to the next patch. Many thanks.