Vassalization?

[Ceorl]

I thought I had read somewhere that creating a vassal and removing their vassalization would help reduce your bad boy reputation. However, I cannot test this theory because the game will not let me cancel the vassilization. Is there any truth to this? Thanks

 

[unmerged(1047)]

It's not true: Whether or not the newly independent country is your vassal does not matter. Where you lose the badboy points is by giving up the provinces that they get when you declare them independent.

 

[unmerged(15337)]

You should be able to cancel the vassalization but you have to wait one month between diplomatic actions involving the same nation.

 

[Duke of Wellington]

You will lose 1 bb for each province granted to the vassal. Does it matter if they are core provinces?

 

[Ceorl]

Thanks, what is 1bb point in relation to the total? I.e. does it do that much?

You should be able to cancel the vassalization but you have to wait one month between diplomatic actions involving the same nation.

I cannot cancel the vassalization. It has been ten years since I made them vassals and each time I click the button nothing happens. A bug perhaps?

 

[Duke of Wellington]

Probably not a bug there are some instances when you can't cancel IIRC though unfortunately I can't recall the situation. The loss of 1 bb is usually not a big deal. BB max is generally around 40 so 1 is not really a lot. However if you've just triggered bb wars by a small amount when you didn't want to it can be your only option in order to survive by reducing bb below the limit.

 

[Third Angel]

I cannot cancel the vassalization. It has been ten years since I made them vassals and each time I click the button nothing happens. A bug perhaps?

It is a known bug: vassalization cannot be broken by the liege unless the game has been reloaded since the vassalization took place. This is true regardless of how the vassalization occured, be it by event, diplomacy, war or releasing.

 

[unmerged(1047)]

Beisdes, as I said, you don't lose badboy for cancelling the vassalization; you lose it when you create the vassal from your own territory (giving up 1 point per province I believe).

 

[Sleepyhead]

A thing that bugs me when it comes to vassalization is that the relation versus other countries lowers when you break it.

 

[Duke of Wellington]

A thing that bugs me when it comes to vassalization is that the relation versus other countries lowers when you break it.

Strange, never noticed that. What ones is it? All? Ones with good relations to the vassal? Ones with good relations to you? Something else?

 

[Sleepyhead]

Strange, never noticed that. What ones is it? All? Ones with good relations to the vassal? Ones with good relations to you? Something else?

I believe it's with countries that shares your religion.

 

[DSYoungEsq]

Lost, perhaps, in all the postings, is the most important point:



CANCELLING THE VASSALIZATION DOESN'T AFFECT BB POINTS.



So there simply is no need to do so. Release the vassal, wait until your BB has gone down, then re-annex as needed.