Vassal Independence War-goal and Voluntary Vassals

[Tacit_Exit]

So in one of the Blorg streams a fledgling empire asks to be vassal to the blorg, the diplo blurb stating they felt they were too weak to survive alone. The Blorg accept, the whole interaction feels pretty benign - gracious from rp perspective.

Just kinda hoping that there is some flag/game mechanic that would prevent such vassals being declared as independence war-goals by other players, at least as long as the Master/Vassal relationship remains good.

Would feel kinda strange if another empire fought to free an empire that didn't apparently 'want' to be free.

 

[Smiles_]

Well, depending on the ethos, the soon-to-be vassal may simply be biding their time until someone can come along, beat up and demolish their neighbor so when they are released, they are on par.


Smiles

 

[Jazka]

Remember that it's only the ones wielding political power that decide whether they give their independence away or not. For example joining the Euro without or with an referendum. Should it be forbidden to oppose the Euro after joining it even if there was no referendum and even if there was one? There could have been 49 percent of the people opposing the decision. 43,1 Percent of the people opposed joining the EU in Finland and there was no referendum about joining the Euro.

I think it's possible for an civil war to break after an empire gets diplomatically vassalized because it's not impossible for an major part of the population to oppose the decision of the ruling class or the referendum especially if it's a question about independence.

 

[Tacit_Exit]

Yeah actually it doesn't seem that jarring when you put it that way, theres lots of possible 'under the hood' reasons to justify an apparently willing client state being freed by a third party.

 

[ahhheygao]

@Tacit_Exit maybe it's just me, but I was amused by your username while reading this discussion...

 

[vyshan]

what I am curious about is shouldn't these vassals not be at all but instead be protectrates; who gain a bonus to their research as you guide them under your rule? Or did the devs get rid of Protectorates and Tributaries?

 

[ahhheygao]

what I am curious about is shouldn't these vassals not be at all but instead be protectrates; who gain a bonus to their research as you guide them under your rule? Or did the devs get rid of Protectorates and Tributaries?

1. The Blorgs were miles ahead but not vastly technologically superior (like Fallen Empire) to their pathetic Fiiral vassals.

2. Protectorates are more applicable for uplifted pre-sentient or enlightened pre-FTL primitive civilizations, like what the Blorgs did with the Ugarlaks. If the Ugarlaks had reached FTL on their own power, then they'd just be vassals.

3. Don't know about Tributaries since we haven't seen them.