Vassal Attacking Vassal With Medium CA

[Yxklyx]

Why can Lithuania attack my vassal here?

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[perpetualmuse]

This is working as designed. The Kingdom of Lithuania is not de jure part of Scandinavia and can have it's own crown laws. This means that he can press claims on your other vassals even though you have medium crown authority, but your other de jure vassals can't press claims on him. If the Kingdom of Lithuania was de jure part of your empire, or the King title didn't exist then it would adopt your empire's crown laws.

 

[Yxklyx]

OK thanks. Why is Lithuania not being incorporated into Scandinavia? Is it because HRE controls one of the counties?

 

[perpetualmuse]

OK thanks. Why is Lithuania not being incorporated into Scandinavia? Is it because HRE controls one of the counties?

I didn't look, but it will be. For any de jure drift to happen, the holder of the title needs to control every de jure county; in this case, the King of Lithuania needs to control every de jure Lithuanian county for the Kingdom to drift into Scandinavia.

 

[Wezqu]

I didn't look, but it will be. For any de jure drift to happen, the holder of the title needs to control every de jure county; in this case, the King of Lithuania needs to control every de jure Lithuanian county for the Kingdom to drift into Scandinavia.

Its enogh that all land is under your rule. It can be owned by you, your vassal or your vassals vassal. Its not needed to be owned by the king or duke of that area.

 

[perpetualmuse]

Its enogh that all land is under your rule. It can be owned by you, your vassal or your vassals vassal. Its not needed to be owned by the king or duke of that area.

That's what I meant when I said "control", but perhaps I could have been clearer. The game uses "control" to mean that you own it or it's under vassal of yours and uses "own" to mean it's in your personal demesne.

 

[Maeldun]

That's what I meant when I said "control", but perhaps I could have been clearer. The game uses "control" to mean that you own it or it's under vassal of yours and uses "own" to mean it's in your personal demesne.

The game differentiates between "realm" and "demesne" for precisely this purpose. Why not use those two terms rather than "own" and "control?"

 

[Dracko81]

The game differentiates between "realm" and "demesne" for precisely this purpose. Why not use those two terms rather than "own" and "control?"

You control your realm and own your demesne. They are verbs used as opposed to using nouns in the sentence.

For a kingdom to drift into an empire, all created de jure titles must be controlled by the emperor.

A kingdom will de jure drift into an empire, if all its created de jure titles are within that empires realm.

Both sentences mean the exact same thing.

I think there is more of a misreading what people have said and people providing an answer that isn't 100% correct.

Duke ABC desires title XYZ.

Duke ABC wants to control XYZ.

The game language does recognise these thing, fyi.

Now how about we drop the english lesson?