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In vampire.19 event, should

Code:
spouse = {
			NOT = {
				AND = {
					trait = vampire_c
					trait = secret_vampire_c
				}
			}

instead be OR rather than AND? It keeps firing for me even though both of my wives are vampires, but after I changed it to OR it stopped. I could have just broken the event. I'm just assuming the usage of logical functions here would mean

Code:
id = "vampire.19"
	desc = "vamp_c_infect_wife"

	trigger = {
		OR = {                             # if you're either a vampire_c or secret_vampire_c
			trait = vampire_c
			trait = secret_vampire_c 
		}
		spouse = {
			NOT = {
				OR = {               #if your spouse is either a vampire_c or secret_vampire _c it won't fire
					trait = vampire_c
					trait = secret_vampire_c
				}
			}
 

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Also, I don't know if it was purposeful for secret vampires to hate known vampires like everyone else, but I fixed it so they don't with this edit to the vampire trait:
Code:
secret_vampire_c = {
	opposites = {
		vampire_c
}
	opposite_opinion = 105
	inherit_chance = 50
	customizer = no
	immortal = yes
	diplomacy = 5
	martial = 2
	learning = 3
	intrigue = 5
	same_opinion = 5
	fertility = -0.33
}

vampire_c = {
	opposites = {
	secret_vampire_c
}
	opposite_opinion = 5
	inherit_chance = 50
	customizer = no
	immortal = yes
	diplomacy = 2
	martial = 2
	learning = 3
	intrigue = 3
	general_opinion = -100
	same_opinion = 105
	fertility = -0.33
}
 

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First post was already fixed in 1.5.
 

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The hating of vampires by hidden ones is to represent the contempt that the hidden cyrodiilic vampires have for those among their number who are not competent enough to keep them hidden given the help Clavicus Vile gives them.
 

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To be fair, I've never seen a vampire (landed or not) remain hidden past age 100 or so, and usually they get revealed within the first ten years. Roughly 90% of vampires in my world have been revealed, and the other 10% are either children or newly-sired. It's REALLY HARD to remain hidden as a vampire.
 

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Hello! I don't want to open a new thread about vampires, I would love if someone could help me be a Vampire, I've manage to marry one like you can see in this screenshot:

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I know it is stupid since she can't really make baby since I am a magnificent Cat, but I would love to get this trait x')... I was reading this topic and the thing about the "Strange" trait but nobody on my empire has this strange that give you buffs and I don't want to cheat it out on the console.

Thanks in advance and sorry if it is a little bit out of contest
 

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Ah, you married the wrong kind of vampire. This is one of the old vampire system and they have been reworked for next version.

If you want to find someone, try to use the character finder, and look for humans who are above 100 years old.
 

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If memory serves, there are no hidden vampires at game start - So you'll have to wait for a long time to see any "hidden vampires" with the positive variant of the trait.

Edit: The vampire trait might be one of the randomly assigned ones now that I think about it. I re-started a few times the other day looking for a vampire straight away, but no luck.
 
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Thanks for the answers I think I managed to marry one of them, she has the "Strange" trait that give her a little buff every stats:

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I think this should be the right choice x') or at least I hope.

My empire is pretty stable, and everything is fine, but it's sad to have election when my adorable cats dies if you know what I mean...
 

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That is the correct type of vampire. If you want to have a better chance of getting the trait, try and get her to fall in love with you if you can or get her to be your friend. Though if you have children by her those children may also try to make you a vampire.
 

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I've always wondered: who do Harkon and Valerica look young and spry, when Serana looks like she could be my grandmother?

Your guess is as good as ours. We have no idea.
 

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How can i become a vampire without cheating if possible ? i don't understand i saw many people with "strange" trait but its not the same one than upper in this thread. My own mom have strange trait, i even tried to marry two people with strange traits lol but never seen a clue of vampires anywhere, even when i searched in others kingdoms..There is only this strange trait..


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That's the wrong Strange trait - In 1.4 you're looking for someone who has positive stats on their strange trait - Yes, there is more than one and at first glance they look exactly the same.

Have fun searching the entire planet for someone with the right kind of Strange.
 

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To be fair, I've never seen a vampire (landed or not) remain hidden past age 100 or so, and usually they get revealed within the first ten years. Roughly 90% of vampires in my world have been revealed, and the other 10% are either children or newly-sired. It's REALLY HARD to remain hidden as a vampire.

I think the odds of a secret vampire being found out should be reduced significantly. However I would also change so that if you are revealed to be a vampire then an event should fire for who ever infected you and everyone you've infected , the event would have a 50% chance of revealing them as well. It should be a lot easier for a single vampire to remain hidden, less so for an entire family.
I would also change the AI reaction to it so that only dishonourable people and/or really old people would consider turning.
 

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I would also change the AI reaction to it so that only dishonourable people and/or really old people would consider turning.

It's not always something you choose - Vampires aren't exactly known by reputation for asking nicely before they tap or turn you. But if it's an event where the person has a choice, sure.
 

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That's the wrong Strange trait - In 1.4 you're looking for someone who has positive stats on their strange trait - Yes, there is more than one and at first glance they look exactly the same.

Have fun searching the entire planet for someone with the right kind of Strange.

oh seems i haven't search enough in the mundus , i'll try find one with positive stats. thanks. After i'll find that person what can i do for she turn me ? Marry me ?
If i marry one of my child with he will be turned ?
 

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Your guess is as good as ours. We have no idea.

The vampire trait freezes your appearance at whatever age you are when you get it.

For some reason Harkon and Valerica both have Immortal=40's while Serana is Immortal=223.

The easiest way to fix this is to open a save ctrl + F, type Serana and then delete the third digit in the Immortal=### line.

When you reload the save she'll look the proper age.
 

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The vampire trait freezes your appearance at whatever age you are when you get it.

Yes, but this does not exactly work very well for the history files... infact, recently someone did an experiment, 10 sarenas, exact same history files... 2 were young, 8 were old.
 

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The vampire trait freezes your appearance at whatever age you are when you get it.

For some reason Harkon and Valerica both have Immortal=40's while Serana is Immortal=223.

The easiest way to fix this is to open a save ctrl + F, type Serana and then delete the third digit in the Immortal=### line.

When you reload the save she'll look the proper age.

As Nova explains it isn't possible - The History file doesn't even have a definition for immortality as such. Only a date of when she received the trait, which doesn't seem to consistently make her young.

Code:
300089 = {
	name = "Serana"
	dynasty=300006
	religion="eight_divines"
	culture="nord" 
	add_trait="nord"
	add_trait="nightblade_4"
	add_trait="necromancer"
	female = yes
	mother = 300088
	father = 300087
	281.1.1 = { birth = yes }
	300.1.1 = { add_trait = "vampire_s" }
	4999.1.1 = { death = yes }