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Good afternoon.

I am playing (and thoroughly enjoying) the new Horse Lords expansion pack. Having played the game for years, I decided to finally do my first Iron Man run now that I have all the expansion packs. I started in 867 AD and am running into bugs that are very bizarre. Are these glitches, or is this working as designed?

First, when I grant a nomadic character his own county, his own landed Duchy, or both, he loses all of the items i gave him and joins my court. The History reads that I "usurped his title". This is bizarre because it, in essence, means that I cannot create vassals outside giving my Clans my spare lands.

Second, I successfully displaced the last Mongol on the map. I was delighted to see that he and his many children joined my court. I had planned to land the kids and also marry the daughters to my sons (both for claims on still existing land and because Mongol packs are awesome), but I was surprised to see that these children, all in my court, do not have me as their Liege. It seems that, for some reason, that the unlanded father, who I defeated, is still their liege. Outside of wives having their husband as their liege, I've never seen this happen.
If this is working as designed, that's going to be a nightmare and, essentially, the end of my favorite pastime of saving and converting unique dynasties under me, as well as diversifying my court. It means that I will be forced to kill the characters off to control their children. It ruins much of my favorite deeds in this game.

Third (this is in conunction with the second), I cannot marry or betrothe my courtiers to my other courtiers because of the second glitch. It means, basically, that these kids are going to grow up unmarried and I have no control over them. The marriage is greyed out and betrothal doesn't work, either. Do I really have to go through all the effort of killing a courtier to actually control my other courtiers? -because if I do, that is fasting insane. I am the boss of my courtiers and an unlanded man in my court should not be able to tell me what I cannot do with other courtiers!

This is frustrating.


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-TURTLESHROOM
 
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Could you explain point #1 in more detail? What're you doing exactly? You're not supposed to be able to grant empty provinces to landless characters, and it sounds like that's what you're trying to do. Perhaps you even have a savegame with reproduction steps?

Are you sure that the displaced Mongols are in your court? Ousted nomads are supposed to keep their clan title and roam around the world as a landless character, is that's what happening?

Thanks for the report/s!