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Mare Nostrum and Patch 1.16 are not far away and I have been reading concerns from users who are worried about their current saves, people who are in the middle of long campaigns and wish to know if they can continue them after April 5th, when Patch 1.16 deploys.

v1.15 save games will not be fully compatible with v1.16

We always attempt to maintain compatibility between versions, but in this case, large map changes along with changes to spread of discovery mechanics means that we cannot maintain compatibility between these versions. Attempting to load v1.15 saves in v1.16 will result in empty provinces, Terra Incogneta over the whole world and other possible glitches. The time and resources required to maintain compatibility for older savegames in this case was unfeasible. We hope you understand.

Still, there is a solution for those who want to continue with your 1.15 saves, and it's a solution that has been in place for a long time but I wish to echo it here. Even if your version is updated to v1.16 you can roll it back to a previous version through Steam. Right click on Europa Universalis IV on Steam and select properties.

Steam Branches 01.png


From here, select the Beta tab and click on the dropdown menu

steam branches 02.png


When v1.16 is deployed, a v1.15.1 branch will be available. If you select this, your game will revert to that version and be as playable as it was before, Ironman and all. New achievements from v1.16 will not be achievable but previous ones will be.

If you are so inclined, you can use this to go as far back as v1.4 and compare how the game is now to how it was back then.
 
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A DD for people who don't know how to use Steam, this is kind of a joke.

The solution to this would be to have these instructions pop up when a player loads up a version incompatible game. But that can wait until Stellaris or HoI4. It's been two years since EU4 release, I've long stopped having sympathy for EU4 and CK2 players who don't know about rolling back patches.
 
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Mare Nostrum and Patch 1.16 are not far away and I have been reading concerns from users who are worried about their current saves, people who are in the middle of long campaigns and wish to know if they can continue them after April 5th, when Patch 1.16 deploys.

v1.15 save games will not be fully compatible with v1.16

We always attempt to maintain compatibility between versions, but in this case, large map changes along with changes to spread of discovery mechanics means that we cannot maintain compatibility between these versions. Attempting to load v1.15 saves in v1.16 will result in empty provinces, Terra Incogneta over the whole world and other possible glitches. The time and resources required to maintain compatibility for older savegames in this case was unfeasible. We hope you understand.

Still, there is a solution for those who want to continue with your 1.15 saves, and it's a solution that has been in place for a long time but I wish to echo it here. Even if your version is updated to v1.16 you can roll it back to a previous version through Steam. Right click on Europa Universalis IV on Steam and select properties.

View attachment 167197

From here, select the Beta tab and click on the dropdown menu

View attachment 167198

When v1.16 is deployed, a v1.15.1 branch will be available. If you select this, your game will revert to that version and be as playable as it was before, Ironman and all. New achievements from v1.14 will not be achievable but previous ones will be.

If you are so inclined, you can use this to go as far back as v1.4 and compare how the game is now to how it was back then.
Holy cow you have 55 friends on steam? Like coworkers yes but thats a lot.
 
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Am I the only one who's still trying to finish his 1.14.4 campaign? That's the first time I'm unintentionally 2 versions behind, lol!
 

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I figured that the saves will be incompatible. Luckily I don't have any ongoing campaigns. Finished my last one a couple days ago
 

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A DD for people who don't know how to use Steam, this is kind of a joke.

The solution to this would be to have these instructions pop up when a player loads up a version incompatible game. But that can wait until Stellaris or HoI4. It's been two years since EU4 release, I've long stopped having sympathy for EU4 and CK2 players who don't know about rolling back patches.

It's not a DD though.. It's just a non stickied Dev post.
 

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Can the game handle loading and reloading patches. I would like to continue my old game ( a WC that is half way done only) and use the new DLC Soooooo can the software
handle multiple patch uploads to the new version for my new games and multiply patch downloads to the old games. Or is their a script that can convert back and forth for a pc.

I know I can always delete and reload game but I hope not to go that far.
 

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Can the game handle loading and reloading patches. I would like to continue my old game ( a WC that is half way done only) and use the new DLC Soooooo can the software
handle multiple patch uploads to the new version for my new games and multiply patch downloads to the old games. Or is their a script that can convert back and forth for a pc.

I know I can always delete and reload game but I hope not to go that far.

The game can handle it, in fact the first post explains how to do just that. However, a single campaign can not handle that. Also explained in the first post.
 

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The game can handle it, in fact the first post explains how to do just that. However, a single campaign can not handle that. Also explained in the first post.
Thanks you for reply, I will take this as a definitive Yes, but i do understand the top post, it is just the word repeatedly ( in my case 30 to 50 times minimum ). From my exjperience in the past, some software can become unstable over time doing this.
 

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Nice info, one question though. Is it a given that there is a non compatibility or is it an option to take a gamble and try it anyway? I'm at 1540 or so so the campaign hasn't been that long in the making.