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[Larry Reese]

Okay, two questions, more rhetorical than anything else. As Germany I've taken most of Europe, set up Vichy France, annexed allied France (a quick raiding fleet to Cayenne), and puppeted Iraq. Italy is also an ally of mine.

After realizing the British were out of oil I landed in England and took the island. I'd already taken Kuwait and a number of other British possessions. I have not touched India (where they moved their capitol). Then, after some more slogging in Africa and taking a few of their provinces there I happen to click on Kuwait and see that the PUPPET feature is lit up. I hit and puppet all of the UK. I thought I'd have to have most of their Indian provinces before they'd offer this option? Any idea what I missed or don't understand here?

Second question: the British puppet is rebuilding its military in britain at a pretty amazing clip. However, it appears not to be supplying its units in India, and Allied Nepal and Bhutan are running wild. I can't ship troops there to crush them because they'd be out of supply too. Anyway to get around this, or get the puppet to supply its units? Otherwise we'll lose most of India.

This game is interesting - it's March 1942 and the Allies are essentially Canada, Australia, South Africa, NZ, Bhutan, Nepal. Japan just DOWed them, and shortly there after the US granted Japan Military Access!? I have not attacked Russia yet, but am about to. By building up a huge merchant fleet I've managed to amass (for the first time ever in any HOI game as Germany for me) 99999 rubber, swiping the moved Belgian capitol stockpile and convoying all that the Brits had built up in India. With no rubber worries now (believe you me, it was a close run thing early on) Russia is going to be a tough fight, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to crush them.

Thanks again to everyone involved in this community for your information and patience.

Larry Reese

 

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I thought I'd have to have most of their Indian provinces before they'd offer this option? Any idea what I missed or don't understand here?

To puppet you need most of their victory points (2/3rd if I recall correctly) and their capital, so there's nothing unusual about it. However, I would advise to go for annexation, it will increase your IC a lot, also resources won't be a problem, there are plenty in the british mainland and colonies. Puppeting countries is best if you don't have enough resources to keep your industry running, since puppets produce resources at a 100% rate (instead of 33% in annexed provinces). As germany I found it useful to puppet sweden to get rid of any steel problems, but honestly I'd rather annex it anyway .

Second question: the British puppet is rebuilding its military in britain at a pretty amazing clip. However, it appears not to be supplying its units in India, and Allied Nepal and Bhutan are running wild. I can't ship troops there to crush them because they'd be out of supply too. Anyway to get around this, or get the puppet to supply its units? Otherwise we'll lose most of India.

It seems that the ai won't create new convoys to supply it's troops or to transport resources to the capital. This is worst for puppeted nations which won't have any convoys at all (I think). So it's up to you to manage 'their' convoys, you will have to supply the troops in india - another reason to avoid puppeting.

Have a look at the faq's since I might be wrong here, I stopped puppeting a long time ago and can't claim to be an expert.
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[Larry Reese]

Thanks very much for the response. I guess you're right on the India thing, I haven't counted it up but I suppose we'd have to have had two-thirds if it gave us the option to puppet.

And you're right, I was mainly after the resources. As Germany I have about 750 IC running and that's good for me for now. The other reason I puppeted them was to just get rid of England as an adversary. With this done, I can turn all my forces on Russia.

Thanks again,

Larry Reese

 

[lordsid]

I always puppet England.
So far in all the games I've played,they always supply all their territory.At
least,where ever they have units.
If,in your game,they aren't,they will.
This includes the games where my u-boats get very run down from sinking
their transports.
They will build alot of good stuff,in particularily inf & long range ftrs.
They are a very good ally,as a puppet.
It is better imo,to have England building units using 100% of their ics,than
for you (as Germany) using 50% of the ics to build the same.
Some of your other allies will not supply certain places.
For instance,the Japanese apparently don't like New Zealand,because they
don't supply it.
The same always happens with Cape Town,no matter which country I use to
capture it.(Brazil-this time)
To puppet a country,you need 66% (iirc) of their vps.