A suggestion from the thread on adding Florence. I think that the tag that is being used by Etruria is a waste, and it would be much better to use it for Florence. Wiz has said that he sees no reason to add a new tag for Florence, but there is no need to add any tag if a practically useless one could be recycled instead.
For the record, here's my original post and relevant posts from Wiz:
For the record, here's my original post and relevant posts from Wiz:
For it to be worth the performance cost of another tag, there would have to be a substantial enough difference between Florence and Tuscany that isn't just 'gain one province, hit decision.' I also question whether anyone besides the AI would use the decision at all, considering it'd turn you into another monarchy.
Events are a definitive possibility, but no promises.
Give me a substantial enough (gameplay) difference between Florence & Tuscany and I'll consider it as well.
Ok, here's my justification:
1. You don't actually have to add any Tags. We already have an almost-useless Tag - Etruria - which exists only for a few years in the late starts. Noone plays it, it cannot be formed, it never revolts. This Tag is practically useless, all it does is take up space. It would make more sense to have Etruria represented by Tuscany and use ETR for Florence.
2. National ideas - the NI of Tuscany are clearly meant for a monarchy - "Grand Duchy of Tuscany" is one of their ideas, "Patron of the Arts" talks about abolishment of the Republic. If Florence and Tuscany were two tags, they could be given two sets of ideas. Naturally, some would be shared, but others could be more beffiting a republic for Florence and a monarchy for Tuscany.
3. More interesting nation forming. Currently, most Tag changes follow the pattern: own provinces X,Y,Z -> get a new flag and some other bonuses. Only a handful of them are more creative. My favourite is Sokoto, where the Tag change is a result of an event chain. I believe that making the formation of Tuscany a simple own X, Y, Z decision a waste and if it were to follow that pattern, then there is no reason to add any Tags. However, I think that it could instead be the result of an event chain about the struggles between Medici and the republicans. A tag change would then be the final representation of the triumph of the Medici, and if the Medici failed (through player's decisions and actions), then Florence would not change its Tag.
As for ideas for Tuscan/Florentine events, I shamelessly bump mine.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...e-vanities-florence-tuscany-dhe-ideas.838990/
By the way: Why does Tuscany only has +1 papal influence tradition while standard Italian tradition is +2. There were a few Medici Popes, if anything Tuscany should be the one with the bigger bonus. Also, I think that Tuscany should be historical friends with the Pope. As it is, they always end up rivalling one another.
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