Those are quite nice. How do you make them? Manually? Or there's some program for that?
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That would have worked as well. Quicker access to Constantinople. But costs an extra diplo relation ( I am at limit )
Ah. Good to know this rule. I could never figure out when these things happen .
Thanks for doing the math for me.
Those discounts do add up. I will have to look at total integration costs to see if the 120 dip I pay for plutocratic-influence policy are worth it. With the other discounts, the total cost of integration may be under 1000 DIP for both vassals, and the policy would not pay for itself in that case.
Thanks. I do them manually with MS Paint . I tried other more fancy programs ( Gimp etc ) . Found that simpler is better and more efficient.
I used to do a lot of slide presentations when I was doing my thesis in graduate school. That knowledge finally came in handy
.The 1720's: Protestant Pentarchy?
I ended last chapter in the midst of a war with Ottomans. The war continues going very well, with almost no resistance from the enemy who is fighting on multiple fronts. The war is going so well in fact, that I am comfortable waging an annexation war on Wu in China:
(screenshot of Wu DOW and peace 1719-1720 , I focus on taking forts to make next war easier and prevent them from upgrading to level 8 fortresses)
In 1721, I land a marine force on a defenseless Constantinople and capture it , this time for good. I had to hurry and do this before Poland took themselves and deprived me of a ticking war score:
After that it is a matter of sieging all remaining Ottoman lands to get more war score. There is only one bloody battle at, of all places, Erzurum!:
The battle starts when 100K Ottomans attack my 46K stack guarding the siege of Trebizond. Prompt recruitments of mercs nearby, and forced march on reinforcing stacks save the day . While not nearly as epic as atwix's Erzurum meatgrinder in his Haida WC run, this is still a big battle that claims 45K american casualties including my best general. But after that, the Ottomans are broken and soon I see the call for peace trigger.
I persist in the war for another year as I watch the Ottomans take loan after loan, until they had about 10K in debt ( you can check loans in ledger and debt via the Great Power diplo option). Eventually the agree to 100WS peace, and when I check ledger, they are bankrupt!:
(screenshot of peace with Ottomans)
In the peace, I split them into 9 portions (numbered 1 thru 9 in screenshot ) . I give 2 provinces to my vassals during war so that I can give them more provinces after the peace. I take everything in land to maximize PP, because every extra point of PP means 36 monarch points . After the peace, I feed all the land in Iraq up to and including Antioch to Yemen. I feed the provinces from Hudavendigar to Antioch to Catalonia . I make sure to keep Constantinople itself, as well as Jerusalem for myself.
Ottoman woes continue as they lose more land to Poland:
(screenshot of Ottomans returning land to Poland - note I started a quick war in China , this time on Yan)
After that smackdown, I needed to pick my next target. Persia had broken the alliance as I expected, and were under a 5 year truce. So I decide to go after Tuscany, who was Reformed faith and had taken Rome ( the papal states ceased to exist as far as I can tell).
(screenshot of DOW on Tuscany, with armies assembled in Venice)
The war with Tuscany is just a series of sieges of their level 8 forts, starting with Firenze. By now I have completed the siege idea in the offensive group.
Meanwhile I finish the war with Yan, slowly unifying China:
This is followed by another short war against Korea:
While the provinces from Korea and Yan are cored, the Tuscan level 8 forts are reduced one by one so that by 1729, I am ready for peace:
(screenshot of peace with Tuscany , inset shows effect of annexation of Rome, and the technology discount from abolition of slavery , 135 years before Lincoln's proclamation )
The annexation of all this Italian land which had Enlightenment in it already pushes us over 10% and I am able to finally adopt it :
I immediately take Admin tech 24 and Mil tech 24 , and a couple of month later , I take Mil tech 25.
This brings us to 1730 and up to date . It has been a while since I did some status updates. so here we are:
Fist the western hemisphere and our government:
My current president ( I nicknamed him Lincoln since he abolished slavery) is a decent 6/4/4. He seems to have escaped the early death of his 2 predecessors. Britain has colonized california. I am working on colonizing the inside of the USA so that once all is annexed, I would have a nice "United States" written across the correct geographic area.
My economy and Europe:
Sweden is now Scandinavia. There are Syrian and Iraqi rebels in control of Ottoman exclaves . Both these spawned in my lands and I allowed them to survive. Ottomans are a still a valid rival. I hope they remain so till my next war with them .
Next is Tech and Asia:
Japan, Muscovy and Persia are the big blocks that remain. I have not upgraded DIplo tech yet. Not sure if I need to, or should. There are no more technologies that matter. But falling behind will affect vassal liberty desire. Depending on when I start integrating Yemen and Catalonia, I may end up hitting the limit and taking the tech. Next admin tech will unlock an idea group.
Africa and Ideas:
I am leaving Africa till the end. For some reason, if I miss out on the WC because of Africa , I won't be upset. After all, Africa's interiro was really not explored by Europe till the 1800.s
As for ideas, the next group will be defensive . The first idea ( Military tradition) and the 3rd ( increased maneuver) both improve the odds of getting generals with siege pips .
Finally diplo map with the annexation costs of my 4 vassals:
That Berber tradition in Tlemcen sure inflates their costs!
I ended last chapter in the midst of a war with Ottomans. The war continues going very well, with almost no resistance from the enemy who is fighting on multiple fronts. The war is going so well in fact, that I am comfortable waging an annexation war on Wu in China:
(screenshot of Wu DOW and peace 1719-1720 , I focus on taking forts to make next war easier and prevent them from upgrading to level 8 fortresses)
In 1721, I land a marine force on a defenseless Constantinople and capture it , this time for good. I had to hurry and do this before Poland took themselves and deprived me of a ticking war score:
After that it is a matter of sieging all remaining Ottoman lands to get more war score. There is only one bloody battle at, of all places, Erzurum!:
The battle starts when 100K Ottomans attack my 46K stack guarding the siege of Trebizond. Prompt recruitments of mercs nearby, and forced march on reinforcing stacks save the day . While not nearly as epic as atwix's Erzurum meatgrinder in his Haida WC run, this is still a big battle that claims 45K american casualties including my best general. But after that, the Ottomans are broken and soon I see the call for peace trigger.
I persist in the war for another year as I watch the Ottomans take loan after loan, until they had about 10K in debt ( you can check loans in ledger and debt via the Great Power diplo option). Eventually the agree to 100WS peace, and when I check ledger, they are bankrupt!:
(screenshot of peace with Ottomans)
In the peace, I split them into 9 portions (numbered 1 thru 9 in screenshot ) . I give 2 provinces to my vassals during war so that I can give them more provinces after the peace. I take everything in land to maximize PP, because every extra point of PP means 36 monarch points . After the peace, I feed all the land in Iraq up to and including Antioch to Yemen. I feed the provinces from Hudavendigar to Antioch to Catalonia . I make sure to keep Constantinople itself, as well as Jerusalem for myself.
Can you guess in which portion ( numbers 1 to 9 in screenshot) did the Ottomans put their capital after I annexed Constantinople?. Extra bonus if you nail down the exact province. Winners will get an Ottoman province renamed for them ;-)
Ottoman woes continue as they lose more land to Poland:
(screenshot of Ottomans returning land to Poland - note I started a quick war in China , this time on Yan)
After that smackdown, I needed to pick my next target. Persia had broken the alliance as I expected, and were under a 5 year truce. So I decide to go after Tuscany, who was Reformed faith and had taken Rome ( the papal states ceased to exist as far as I can tell).
(screenshot of DOW on Tuscany, with armies assembled in Venice)
The war with Tuscany is just a series of sieges of their level 8 forts, starting with Firenze. By now I have completed the siege idea in the offensive group.
Meanwhile I finish the war with Yan, slowly unifying China:
This is followed by another short war against Korea:
While the provinces from Korea and Yan are cored, the Tuscan level 8 forts are reduced one by one so that by 1729, I am ready for peace:
(screenshot of peace with Tuscany , inset shows effect of annexation of Rome, and the technology discount from abolition of slavery , 135 years before Lincoln's proclamation )
The annexation of all this Italian land which had Enlightenment in it already pushes us over 10% and I am able to finally adopt it :
I immediately take Admin tech 24 and Mil tech 24 , and a couple of month later , I take Mil tech 25.
This brings us to 1730 and up to date . It has been a while since I did some status updates. so here we are:
Fist the western hemisphere and our government:
My current president ( I nicknamed him Lincoln since he abolished slavery) is a decent 6/4/4. He seems to have escaped the early death of his 2 predecessors. Britain has colonized california. I am working on colonizing the inside of the USA so that once all is annexed, I would have a nice "United States" written across the correct geographic area.
My economy and Europe:
Sweden is now Scandinavia. There are Syrian and Iraqi rebels in control of Ottoman exclaves . Both these spawned in my lands and I allowed them to survive. Ottomans are a still a valid rival. I hope they remain so till my next war with them .
Next is Tech and Asia:
Japan, Muscovy and Persia are the big blocks that remain. I have not upgraded DIplo tech yet. Not sure if I need to, or should. There are no more technologies that matter. But falling behind will affect vassal liberty desire. Depending on when I start integrating Yemen and Catalonia, I may end up hitting the limit and taking the tech. Next admin tech will unlock an idea group.
Africa and Ideas:
I am leaving Africa till the end. For some reason, if I miss out on the WC because of Africa , I won't be upset. After all, Africa's interiro was really not explored by Europe till the 1800.s
As for ideas, the next group will be defensive . The first idea ( Military tradition) and the 3rd ( increased maneuver) both improve the odds of getting generals with siege pips .
Finally diplo map with the annexation costs of my 4 vassals:
That Berber tradition in Tlemcen sure inflates their costs!
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I'm going to guess that the new Ottoman Capital is in portion 3 (southern half of Asia minor).
Been a very entertaining read thus far, keep up the good work!
Been a very entertaining read thus far, keep up the good work!
RIP Ottomans! As for the new capital, I'm guessing 4, somewhere around the meat grinder. Nice idea of you to let us guess their capital, it's almost like a puzzle we're solving
(screenshot of peace with Ottomans)
.NO, now the value of all slave provinces are reduced to 2 ducats
(screenshot of peace with Tuscany , inset shows effect of annexation of Rome, and the technology discount from abolition of slavery , 135 years before Lincoln's proclamation )
! Not that it matters for you though, but I remember that I did that for the first time and I got horrified how much income I lost because I didn't know back then it reduced its value too .
heh, sounds familiar. at least you could fight with full combat width there. That said, the mountain combat width defeated the attacking ottomans in my haida campaign there.
i predicted erzurum is key to distract the ottomans
section three. My guess would be adana (north of cyprus) or Ankara.
I'm guessing it's somewhere in section 3.
Also, I read all 21 pages in one day! Soo entertaining
Also, I read all 21 pages in one day! Soo entertaining
Hi, just read this over the last few days and really enjoyed it. Finding this very useful, I've barely played EU4 before this month so keep comparing my pace against my EU3 experience.
I like the graphics with all the inserts - I never got beyond writing on mine!
I like the graphics with all the inserts - I never got beyond writing on mine!
Nice job driving them into bankruptcy! And it must be a record setting partitioningI persist in the war for another year as I watch the Ottomans take loan after loan, until they had about 10K in debt ( you can check loans in ledger and debt via the Great Power diplo option). Eventually the agree to 100WS peace, and when I check ledger, they are bankrupt!:
(screenshot of peace with Ottomans)
In the peace, I split them into 9 portions (numbered 1 thru 9 in screenshot ) . I give 2 provinces to my vassals during war so that I can give them more provinces after the peace. I take everything in land to maximize PP, because every extra point of PP means 36 monarch points . After the peace, I feed all the land in Iraq up to and including Antioch to Yemen. I feed the provinces from Hudavendigar to Antioch to Catalonia . I make sure to keep Constantinople itself, as well as Jerusalem for myself.
Can you guess in which portion ( numbers 1 to 9 in screenshot) did the Ottomans put their capital after I annexed Constantinople?. Extra bonus if you nail down the exact province. Winners will get an Ottoman province renamed for them ;-)
Like most I would bet on capital moving to region 3. My province pick is Hamid
3 and 4 seem to be the possible partitions for Otto Capital. Adana, Aydin, and Sinop seem like likely candidates. Everyone else is saying 3, so I'll go with 4 - Sinop.
Thank you for feedback. Makes it all worthwhile.
Don't count them out yet! Like the hydra, they can come back.
The new wasteland provinces ( introduced in 1.18 ?) make this possible. e.g I could not have split off Iraq without the wasteland near the real Mt Ararat .
Thank you for feedback. Makes it all worthwhile.
It's been a great read, I really enjoy the way you have presented this AAR. It has me interested in trying to do my first WC as well, I have 580 hours clocked (started during 1.17) now and I'm almost starting to feel like I'm getting somewhat good at the game. I'm thinking of a PU fueled France WC where most of the globe is owned by subjects. I love playing as France because they have so many options, each France game I play I think of 2 more different approaches to playing as them.
The 1720's: Let the annexations begin!
In the last Chapter we saw the defeat of the Ottomans and the conquest of a large chunk of Italy, including Rome, from the Reformed Tuscany . I ended at peace, and therefore I had the chance to start annexing vassals. But based on badesumofu 's math, it is too early to do that now , as I should aim for about 40% complete around the time of admin eff 3 ( 1745).
So instead I decide to invade Great Britain:
(screenshot of DOW on Great Britain , inset shows Lithuania declaring on the weakend Ottomans )
Why Great Britain? Because I am getting near the point of rapid annexation and therefore significant AE production. Just in case I faced a coalition , I did not want to have an enemy with a strong navy. And Britain had the last navy that could seriously challenge mine . Also, I wanted to beef up Gaeldom in case I decided to integrate them alongside Yemen and Catalonia.
The invasion proceeds from the North towards the South, sieging Lothian first. Knowing that those level 8 forts will take time to capture, I figured the cores from Tuscany will finish before I peace out England. So I start another quick war to keep my coring queue full, this time against Delhi . But then receive a bit of bad news: my president "Lincoln", now at 6/4/4 dies.
(screenshot of death of president Nuno "Lincoln" De Haro, succeeded by his brother Gonzalo De Haro ( age 56 ) during the early phase of the British invasion , inset shows cleanup war declared on Delhi)
The death of my president is a problem because it sets me back to 4/1/1 and I will soon be needing high diplo points for annexations. This leads me to change my mind on my next idea group, which has just become available. Instead of Defensive , I go with..Espionage:
Given that my president was already 59 years old, I would have trouble getting to 6/6/6 and will be short on MIL power anyways. Better save any MIL power I have to improve Republican tradition, instead of on a idea that is superfluos at this time. I was a bit hesitant to spend 760 DIP on the first two Espionage ideas, but having the extra diplomat from would help in timing annexations well. And spying on enemy will help shorten sieges. SO this is my final idea lineup for this run.
Back to the war, Lothian falls opening the road to London, which then is taken in late 1732:
(screenshot of fall of London, inset shows earlier peace with Delhi keeping my coring queue going, second inset shows we are now spying on France to get a tech discount when the time comes for upgrading)
Meanwhile, I am following the fate of several rebellions that started in lands I took from Ottomans and then moved into the dismembered Ottoman exclaves:
Of these, the Syrian and Iraqi rebellions will succeed as Ottomans cannot get access through my land to crush them. The one in Egypt will fail, and I suspect they either landed navy force or had enough land there to recruit a force in any case. Syria has a very short life as I immediately declare on them and occupy them before they recruit a single regiment ( BTW, despite bankruptcy, the Ottomans never spawned rebels in their own lands - I had periodically checked unrest in their provinces and they had something like -8 to -12 , thanks to a lot of bonuses)
Iraq becomes independent in April 1734, and a month later Ottomans are no longer a valid rival. I wonder if that rebellion caused the shift. That would be too bad, because a short while later, Ottomans make peace with Lithuania, winning back some land:
As I mentioned to Tom earlier, do not count the Ottomans as dead yet!.
It is now mid-decade, and I can finally get 100WS from Great Britain:
I am (pleasantly) surprised at the amount of land you can get in one peace. I am not sure how the math for this is calculated, but I know the province warscore discount from Diplomatic idea group hleps, and I think Admin Efficiency as well. It is reassuring that GB was practically destroyed in a single war, and all that is left can be done as "cleanup" wars.
This is then followed by annexation of Syria, which is fed to Yemen:
With our country at peace now, I can start the annexation of both Catalonia and Yemen:
Combined, they will come to a whopping 3000 DIP in cost. BUt I am counting on all the discounts badesumofu calculated to make it more like 1200 points. It is hard to estimate where my progress on both will be by 1745, but it will certainly be less than half as I will run out of DIP at stome point and one or both annexations will have to halt or slow down .
Since I am now only 10 years away from admin eff 3, I need to be careful on how much I core. I do not want to stop annexing , as coring time is just as much a limiting factor as ADM. But there is no point in coring now what can be cored much more cheaply later. So I engage in a bit of cleanup against Wu:
And then I decide to take an additional vassal, because France just broke their alliance with me after my spy was discovered, and this freed up a diplo slot:
(screenshot of DOW on Denmark, soon after France catches my spy and breaks the alliance -Denmark is now practically exiled to Iceland and is vassalizable, but still owns cores on all of mainland Denmark )
While I vassalize Denmark, I also finish a short cleanup war with Nagaur+Jaunpur:
(screenshot of vassalization of Denmark and annexation of Nagaur)
It is now 1738, and in a year the truce with Ottomans expire. And I plan on hitting them again . Since I am moving troops from india to the Middle East, I do a little drive-by war with Ethiopia. ANd then I get an odd notice:
(screenshot of Poland declaring on Ottomans all on their own, inset shows cleanup war result in Ethiopia)
I have no clue why the Poland AI thought it is a good idea to attack Ottomans. The latter are out of bankruptcy, and have a much larger army compared to the Poles. In fact, Lithuania did the same thing a few years ago and ended up losing a bunch of land. And because of that truce, Lithuania cannot join Poland. Unless, of course, the AI is telepathic and knew that I was about to hit the Ottomans with the full might of USA:
(screenshot of DOW on Ottomans, which BTW reveals teh name of their capital)
That was is now ongoing . I should have the Ottoman defeated within 5 years. I will likley take a lot of Land, and maybe release Mamlukes or another country as a vassal now that Catalonia and Yemen will be gone. .
In the last Chapter we saw the defeat of the Ottomans and the conquest of a large chunk of Italy, including Rome, from the Reformed Tuscany . I ended at peace, and therefore I had the chance to start annexing vassals. But based on badesumofu 's math, it is too early to do that now , as I should aim for about 40% complete around the time of admin eff 3 ( 1745).
So instead I decide to invade Great Britain:
(screenshot of DOW on Great Britain , inset shows Lithuania declaring on the weakend Ottomans )
Why Great Britain? Because I am getting near the point of rapid annexation and therefore significant AE production. Just in case I faced a coalition , I did not want to have an enemy with a strong navy. And Britain had the last navy that could seriously challenge mine . Also, I wanted to beef up Gaeldom in case I decided to integrate them alongside Yemen and Catalonia.
The invasion proceeds from the North towards the South, sieging Lothian first. Knowing that those level 8 forts will take time to capture, I figured the cores from Tuscany will finish before I peace out England. So I start another quick war to keep my coring queue full, this time against Delhi . But then receive a bit of bad news: my president "Lincoln", now at 6/4/4 dies.
(screenshot of death of president Nuno "Lincoln" De Haro, succeeded by his brother Gonzalo De Haro ( age 56 ) during the early phase of the British invasion , inset shows cleanup war declared on Delhi)
The death of my president is a problem because it sets me back to 4/1/1 and I will soon be needing high diplo points for annexations. This leads me to change my mind on my next idea group, which has just become available. Instead of Defensive , I go with..Espionage:
Given that my president was already 59 years old, I would have trouble getting to 6/6/6 and will be short on MIL power anyways. Better save any MIL power I have to improve Republican tradition, instead of on a idea that is superfluos at this time. I was a bit hesitant to spend 760 DIP on the first two Espionage ideas, but having the extra diplomat from would help in timing annexations well. And spying on enemy will help shorten sieges. SO this is my final idea lineup for this run.
Back to the war, Lothian falls opening the road to London, which then is taken in late 1732:
(screenshot of fall of London, inset shows earlier peace with Delhi keeping my coring queue going, second inset shows we are now spying on France to get a tech discount when the time comes for upgrading)
Meanwhile, I am following the fate of several rebellions that started in lands I took from Ottomans and then moved into the dismembered Ottoman exclaves:
Of these, the Syrian and Iraqi rebellions will succeed as Ottomans cannot get access through my land to crush them. The one in Egypt will fail, and I suspect they either landed navy force or had enough land there to recruit a force in any case. Syria has a very short life as I immediately declare on them and occupy them before they recruit a single regiment ( BTW, despite bankruptcy, the Ottomans never spawned rebels in their own lands - I had periodically checked unrest in their provinces and they had something like -8 to -12 , thanks to a lot of bonuses)
Iraq becomes independent in April 1734, and a month later Ottomans are no longer a valid rival
. I wonder if that rebellion caused the shift. That would be too bad, because a short while later, Ottomans make peace with Lithuania, winning back some land:
As I mentioned to Tom earlier, do not count the Ottomans as dead yet!.
It is now mid-decade, and I can finally get 100WS from Great Britain:
I am (pleasantly) surprised at the amount of land you can get in one peace. I am not sure how the math for this is calculated, but I know the province warscore discount from Diplomatic idea group hleps, and I think Admin Efficiency as well. It is reassuring that GB was practically destroyed in a single war, and all that is left can be done as "cleanup" wars.
This is then followed by annexation of Syria, which is fed to Yemen:
With our country at peace now, I can start the annexation of both Catalonia and Yemen:
Combined, they will come to a whopping 3000 DIP in cost. BUt I am counting on all the discounts badesumofu calculated to make it more like 1200 points. It is hard to estimate where my progress on both will be by 1745, but it will certainly be less than half as I will run out of DIP at stome point and one or both annexations will have to halt or slow down .
Since I am now only 10 years away from admin eff 3, I need to be careful on how much I core. I do not want to stop annexing , as coring time is just as much a limiting factor as ADM. But there is no point in coring now what can be cored much more cheaply later. So I engage in a bit of cleanup against Wu:
And then I decide to take an additional vassal, because France just broke their alliance with me after my spy was discovered, and this freed up a diplo slot:
(screenshot of DOW on Denmark, soon after France catches my spy and breaks the alliance -Denmark is now practically exiled to Iceland and is vassalizable, but still owns cores on all of mainland Denmark )
While I vassalize Denmark, I also finish a short cleanup war with Nagaur+Jaunpur:
(screenshot of vassalization of Denmark and annexation of Nagaur)
It is now 1738, and in a year the truce with Ottomans expire. And I plan on hitting them again . Since I am moving troops from india to the Middle East, I do a little drive-by war with Ethiopia. ANd then I get an odd notice:
(screenshot of Poland declaring on Ottomans all on their own, inset shows cleanup war result in Ethiopia)
I have no clue why the Poland AI thought it is a good idea to attack Ottomans. The latter are out of bankruptcy, and have a much larger army compared to the Poles. In fact, Lithuania did the same thing a few years ago and ended up losing a bunch of land. And because of that truce, Lithuania cannot join Poland. Unless, of course, the AI is telepathic and knew that I was about to hit the Ottomans with the full might of USA
:
(screenshot of DOW on Ottomans, which BTW reveals teh name of their capital)
Almost everyone guessed portion 3 or 4, most picking 3. Only two picked 4: @Tom D. and @Badesumofu . And badesumofu correctly picked the province of Sinop as well. Good job!!
That was is now ongoing . I should have the Ottoman defeated within 5 years. I will likley take a lot of Land, and maybe release Mamlukes or another country as a vassal now that Catalonia and Yemen will be gone. .
They are only prolonging their own death sentence, they will fall no matter what, no matter the cost.
I'm glad I guessed right, I almost thought there was a conspiracy going on with almost everybody choosing 3
(screenshot of DOW on Ottomans, which BTW reveals teh name of their capital)
. Ah well, it was only a guess and I thought they would at least stay in their own region/culture group. Not sure how it's actually calculated, these probably have something to do with it. I checked yesterday and Ottomans do at least not have a fixed capital.
The 1740's: All about numbers
I left the last decade with a war against the weakened Ottomans, and with the annexation of Catalonia and Yemen already started. During the war, my 6/3/3 president dies at age 65. For once, I elect a Diplomat guy instead of the Bureaucrat to help continue the integration of the vassals:
(screenshot of a rare election where a non-Bureaucrat is chosen , note Ottomans trying to retake Constantinople in vain)
My new president is middle aged ( 53), not ideal for my purposes. But he will do and I will keep re-electing him.
The war with Ottomans is uneventful, with no memorable battles, just interminable sieges. By 1742, Ottoman land is a quilt of occupations by USA, Muscovy ( allied to USA in same war), Poland ( separate war) and Austria ( another separate war);
(screenshot of the once powerful Ottomans being overrun by several countries , inset shows cleanup war against SHun in china , other inset shows Scandinavia declaring on Poland who is busy fighting the Ottomans. Note that I start to build a spy network in Scandinavia, who will be my next target )
In 1743 I conclude a 100 WS peace with Ottomans, annexing all of Egypt which I release as Mamluks, in addition to land that gives me a border with Poland:
NExt I turn my attention to Scandinavia who is fighting Poland. I could have decided to attack Poland ( now that I have a border with them), but instead decide to go for the bigger country. My logic is to attack the largest countries now as it would take a while to whittle them down. Unfortunately, it takes 1.5 years to get the troops transported from Mediterranean to Baltic. But in June 1744, I finally declare:
(DOW on Scandinavia, note Poland already at war with them )
Using the few provinces that still belong to my vassal Denmark, I send the armies towards SJaelland, Berlin and Stockholm:
(screenshot fall of Stockholm in 1 month, and general direction of the USA armies)
A few months into the war and 1745 arrives, and with it the final admin efficiency. At that point, I had about 40% of both annexations complete, and I was eager to see what happens to them once I apply the admin efficiency, and then whether I needed both annexation discount policies:
(screenshot of effect of admin efficiency and then adoption of admin-influence policy for 20% integration discount and plutocratic-influence policy for another 10% discount )
As you can see in the screenshot, the admin efficiency pushed completion to 60%, the big discount to over 80% and the last discount to just over 100%. badesumofu was very accurate in his math and the final cost was 40% of initial cost. And my timing of when to start the annexation was also correct ( although that was more luck than skill, I suppose ) . And so at the next month tick, I get the integration announcements, and now you can see USA blue over all of Southern Asia:
The integration of Catalonya and Yemen frees up a diplo slot . I fill that slot promptly with Iraq after a very quick war:
(screenshot of DOW and peace with Iraq making them into my 4th vassal ( alongside Gaeldom, Tlemcen and Mamluks )
I chose Iraq as vassal so that I can feed them Persian land . Persia is my next target after Scandinavia . And the war with Scandinavia is concluded in 1746:
I take 50% WS only from Scandinavia . I did not go for 100 WS because I wanted to both give provinces to Denmark via grant province ( which requires being at peace), and also start the war with Persia ( which I estimated will take some time ) . I had enough armies to run both wars simultaneously, but I did not have enough generals for that. And since Persia was at war with Muscovy, this was a good time to hit them:
(screenshot of DOW on Persia, note Persians occupying Muscovite land)
DUring the Persian war, I conclude two quick wars with Korea and Yeren, annexing both of them:
(screenshot of annexation of Korea and Yeren- I keep armies nearby for invasion of Japan, which should come in the next decade)
In 1750, I am finally ready for peace with Persia:
In the peace, I target all their fortified provinces, leading to a very ugly border-gore situation. But I really do not want to have to siege everything again in the next war. Only 2 forts remain with them, and they will likely lose one of them to Yarqand soon .
THis brings me up to date. I am making a lot of progress, but the amount of land still to conquer is daunting. I think it will all boil down to :
- will I have enough DIP and ADM to annex / core all of it?
-will I have time to conquer all of it?
It is all now a matter of numbers.
(diplo screenshot of world, with province of Bukhara coring cost tooltip showing cost at about 1.6 ADM/dev)
I left the last decade with a war against the weakened Ottomans, and with the annexation of Catalonia and Yemen already started. During the war, my 6/3/3 president dies at age 65. For once, I elect a Diplomat guy instead of the Bureaucrat to help continue the integration of the vassals:
(screenshot of a rare election where a non-Bureaucrat is chosen , note Ottomans trying to retake Constantinople in vain)
My new president is middle aged ( 53), not ideal for my purposes. But he will do and I will keep re-electing him.
The war with Ottomans is uneventful, with no memorable battles, just interminable sieges. By 1742, Ottoman land is a quilt of occupations by USA, Muscovy ( allied to USA in same war), Poland ( separate war) and Austria ( another separate war);
(screenshot of the once powerful Ottomans being overrun by several countries , inset shows cleanup war against SHun in china , other inset shows Scandinavia declaring on Poland who is busy fighting the Ottomans. Note that I start to build a spy network in Scandinavia, who will be my next target )
In 1743 I conclude a 100 WS peace with Ottomans, annexing all of Egypt which I release as Mamluks, in addition to land that gives me a border with Poland:
NExt I turn my attention to Scandinavia who is fighting Poland. I could have decided to attack Poland ( now that I have a border with them), but instead decide to go for the bigger country. My logic is to attack the largest countries now as it would take a while to whittle them down. Unfortunately, it takes 1.5 years to get the troops transported from Mediterranean to Baltic. But in June 1744, I finally declare:
(DOW on Scandinavia, note Poland already at war with them )
Using the few provinces that still belong to my vassal Denmark, I send the armies towards SJaelland, Berlin and Stockholm:
(screenshot fall of Stockholm in 1 month, and general direction of the USA armies)
A few months into the war and 1745 arrives, and with it the final admin efficiency. At that point, I had about 40% of both annexations complete, and I was eager to see what happens to them once I apply the admin efficiency, and then whether I needed both annexation discount policies:
(screenshot of effect of admin efficiency and then adoption of admin-influence policy for 20% integration discount and plutocratic-influence policy for another 10% discount )
As you can see in the screenshot, the admin efficiency pushed completion to 60%, the big discount to over 80% and the last discount to just over 100%. badesumofu was very accurate in his math and the final cost was 40% of initial cost. And my timing of when to start the annexation was also correct ( although that was more luck than skill, I suppose ) . And so at the next month tick, I get the integration announcements, and now you can see USA blue over all of Southern Asia:
The integration of Catalonya and Yemen frees up a diplo slot . I fill that slot promptly with Iraq after a very quick war:
(screenshot of DOW and peace with Iraq making them into my 4th vassal ( alongside Gaeldom, Tlemcen and Mamluks )
I chose Iraq as vassal so that I can feed them Persian land . Persia is my next target after Scandinavia . And the war with Scandinavia is concluded in 1746:
I take 50% WS only from Scandinavia . I did not go for 100 WS because I wanted to both give provinces to Denmark via grant province ( which requires being at peace), and also start the war with Persia ( which I estimated will take some time ) . I had enough armies to run both wars simultaneously, but I did not have enough generals for that. And since Persia was at war with Muscovy, this was a good time to hit them:
(screenshot of DOW on Persia, note Persians occupying Muscovite land)
DUring the Persian war, I conclude two quick wars with Korea and Yeren, annexing both of them:
(screenshot of annexation of Korea and Yeren- I keep armies nearby for invasion of Japan, which should come in the next decade)
In 1750, I am finally ready for peace with Persia:
In the peace, I target all their fortified provinces, leading to a very ugly border-gore situation. But I really do not want to have to siege everything again in the next war. Only 2 forts remain with them, and they will likely lose one of them to Yarqand soon .
THis brings me up to date. I am making a lot of progress, but the amount of land still to conquer is daunting. I think it will all boil down to :
- will I have enough DIP and ADM to annex / core all of it?
-will I have time to conquer all of it?
It is all now a matter of numbers.
(diplo screenshot of world, with province of Bukhara coring cost tooltip showing cost at about 1.6 ADM/dev)
once you eat the land north of India, and take 100% colonies and land from Muscovy, it will boil down to Europe.
I trust you know how to deal with HRE lategame?
Ottomans are down, so I only see France as a late game boss.What idea groups did they take?
I trust you know how to deal with HRE lategame?
Ottomans are down, so I only see France as a late game boss.What idea groups did they take?