Is Usa and Uk are allies of the USSR after Operation Barbarossa? Do you like the Hoi3 will fight on separate?
Usa and Uk fight together with Ussr
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They will remain in separate factions (USA and UK in Allies, USSR in Comintern). But for all intents and purposes, I guess you could consider them "allies", since the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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@Victor Cortez: He is asking whether the Allies and the Comintern will ever join forces(and faction) like in real life, or if they will "counts as" separate forces that just happen to both be at war with the Axis a.la. HoI2&3(and probably 1, but I haven't played that one, so I don't know for sure).
As for the answer to said question... I ain't got a clue, but if I had to guess, I would say "no", simply because that's how it's worked before.
Then again, I also believe the reason they built the game like that is because there haven't been mechanics in place to represent factions breaking up, and they wanted the game to be able to progress into a cold war or "operation unthinkable" type of situation.
If these "rules" have changed, then it's possible the soviets can join forces with the allies... but I do not believe it to be the case.
As for the answer to said question... I ain't got a clue, but if I had to guess, I would say "no", simply because that's how it's worked before.
Then again, I also believe the reason they built the game like that is because there haven't been mechanics in place to represent factions breaking up, and they wanted the game to be able to progress into a cold war or "operation unthinkable" type of situation.
If these "rules" have changed, then it's possible the soviets can join forces with the allies... but I do not believe it to be the case.
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Perhaps a better question would be: Can different factions work together?
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If you form the unholy alliance the Axis and comintern will be disbanded and germany and the soviet union form an new faction.
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Well they didn't work together tho..
They helped each other out but never collaborated like how the USA did with the UK, they each followed their own interest and set of goals. I think that the way they are shown in HOI 3 and from what i see in HOi IV is the most historical you could really do it.
Since they will be in two separate factions, I think it would be interesting to see the race to Berlin and Rhine between Comintern and Allies if Germany begins to lose...just like in reality.
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The soviet union never was part of the allies. They were simply common enemies of the same enemy. They highly distrusted each other, but needed each other to be able to stop the german advances. If not for the nuclear bomb the war would have continued after world war 2 with the soviet union and the western allies. We actually had that exact scenario with the cold war, where only the nuclear weapons kept it really cold.
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Is there any current limit on which diplomatic actions are only for allies/factions members? For example can now USA tranfer tech to SOV without being in the same faction?
True, although they did have joint meetings with the big bosses at Jalta, Teheran and so on.
Russia/Comintern did recieve a massive help from the allies, without the LL they would probably not have made it.
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yes, but stalin was also very upset that until the soviets actually pushed back the germans the western allies basicly did nothing on the ground, with the exception of air attacks of course and let the russians die. At that point it basicly became an race to berlin to secure as much nazi tech before the other side does.
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It would be cool if factions could "ally" formally (like the United Nations), in a war. When the War is won this alliance will be gone.
What I'll be interested to see is whether or not you can get into a 3 way war... Allies vs. Axis vs. Comintern. All out war for the fate of the world
Doesn't sound like it would be interesting to play (unless you are the one alone)
Well I do hope that they force the allies to decide whether or not to declare war on the Soviets when they invade Poland. They had to make the choice IRL.
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Probably various from player to player whether they like it or not. Would none the less open up for many interesting strategies, etc. Especially since you can create your own factions in HoI4, so I dont mean an alliance between Communist and Allies, for example. That I can understand is "boring".
True. There were plans to bomb Soviet oil fields by the Allies, as they were supplying the Germans. At points it was hard to decide whether or not the Soviets were allied to the Germans (from the Allies viewpoint), since bomb were on the war path