Has anyone been able to grant UK miltary control over US meanwhile (by event or whatever)? It used to be a problem I recall...
-
We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.
I thought it was possible IF UK IC exceeds USA. Now if THAT's possible... (?)
What event would that be? How can one encourage getting it?
The UK player has to work hard at it. No "liberations", no alliance members "stealing the UK's glory". Ruthless "UK first, everybody else follows."
And just why should Sardinia go to the French? :rofl:
Last edited:
They'd have to work very very hard. I'm not even sure if a UK with most of central and southern Europe, all its colonies and the Japanese homeland would be enough.The UK player has to work hard at it. No "liberations", no alliance members "stealing the UK's glory". Ruthless "UK first, everybody else follows."
And just why should Sardinia go to the French? :rofl:
Thanks. We used to play MP game (UK vs GER) in 1.07 and actually had an event granting UK military control over US once US joins the Allies. The event itself worked well I recall, but after some days AI-US kept revoking access again. Any way around this?
The easiest way would be to add persistent = yes after country = ENG and check that the UK doesn't already have control in the trigger conditions. Ugly, but it will work. AFAIK there's nothing in the AI files determining how likely the AI will grant or revoke military control.
Does the US AI revoke military control if it's edited in through a save game (rather then via event)? I've never heard of such an occurrence, but I haven't played as the UK and tried it.
Probably true. Is there a set percentage of previous enemy country IC that human conqueror gets once fully repaired? What I mean, suppose human UK arranges campaign so UK takes all of Germany. If German IC was 300 earlier (just example), is there a calculable percentage that the UK increased IC will be for holding an occupied and repaired Germany? Or does it vary according to countries? Sorry, a bit of a basic question, but I don't know.
Once annexed it's 40% of the original IC, so 120IC. (But I think Germany's IC would reach 200-220 with Austria so 80-88IC for the UK is more likely). If it's just controlled (and not owned), it's 15% of the original IC. This doesn't take into account other bonuses the UK has (would colonial IC bonus be relevant? I honestly don't know), and also the revolt risk of each province would reduce the IC to some degree.
Well, I'll be like Churchill and not prophesy but with 40% of original country IC possible, it seems a challenging game (and maybe AAR) might be "Slapping the Yanks" - getting military control of the USA as the UK.
Let's see - stop Germany from getting Vichy Event. That will keep Italy and Japan out of a war with the Allies.
Basically repeat what I did but have a strict "UK first, ever body else follows" policy. So that nets all of Norway, Denmark, and Germany (which includes Austria, Czechoslovakia, and Poland). It also gets Hungary and Romania. Maybe Finland too.
Because the Wehrmacht can't break thru at Belgium, they won't do the Pact of Steel with Yugoslavia, so no pact exists to be broken so Yugoslavia remains open for Allies to bring them into their alliance. That should provoke war with Bulgaria, N. Spain and Italy to add to the UK's increasing IC. Hopefully the "GoI of Greece" repeats into them DOWing the Allies to add a bit more.
Meanwhile the UK starts a proper IC building program at start.
Who else can we add? Japan eventually but I feel that would be too late to make a fair challenge because one may as well say "the SU too" with a philosophy of total IC whoring. But without trying to add it up I'm thinking.... well I did say I would not prophesy.
Using the 1936 scenario for coming to this total. All the countries you've mentioned have a total base IC of 449 (including Finland, but just the IC of western Poland). 40% of all this is 179.6 IC.
Japan has a total IC of 101 (including Taipei and Korea), which translates to 40.4IC for the UK.
The base IC of the UK in 1936 is 156 IC. With all the European countries you've mentioned, the UK would have a total of 335.6 IC (ignoring the effect of revolt risk). While the USA has 'just' 283 IC in 1936 I've seen the US AI build to at least 350 IC (on a mod that's edited all the AI's, but might be the same/similar for 'vanilla'). However many of the aforementioned countries would, assumably, built infrastructure and IC as well, so it is hard to tell if the UK could over-take the USA for IC. Having a Minister of Security with the 'Prince of Terror' trait, giving the UK another +15% foreign IC, could tip the balance. Controlling Japan might still be needed none-the-less, it's quite a close call.
This, IMO, would ensure the UK over-taking the US IC-wise. Anyway, it would be a good aim to build until 180 base IC is reached for the 2 extra tech teams.
Thanks for those figures. One of the things that could seriously prevent UK succeeding might be the annexation of Germany with resultant "redrawing the boundaries of Europe" which would result in a lot of IC provinces just gained suddenly leaving the equation. Still, as regards a possible game with specific goal, it might be fun.
Last edited: