So far there are 2 origins in the game that help drive you towards a certain ascenion route. (Overtuned and teachers of the shroud) How about a mechanist change to start off the mechanist with the droid technology or maybe something farther. Also make it so you can customize your robots in the empire creation menu.
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You already start with the first two techs (Powered Exoskeletons & Robot Workers), so while I would be fine with having Machine Template Systems either partway finished or already finished, I don't think they should start with droids. Would be a bit too powerful early on imo.
Being able to modify the robots would be neat though, but I'd expect you wouldn't have very many points/picks to start with.
Being able to modify the robots would be neat though, but I'd expect you wouldn't have very many points/picks to start with.
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Mechniast could get some buff
+ start with Cyborgs
+ works as requirment for Synthetic Ascension
+ There could be anomalies to research poping every 10 year, giving us either robotic tech or some reward so we can expand our robots.
+You start with robot modding tech and can design your starting robot during creation.
+Provide unique 5% speed bonus to mechanist.
There is an always way to pop some bonus with delay so the origin will not be that front loaded.
The droid 2nd level tech from the start could be too much, but ability to custom from start is something.
It is important to notice, that you can get prosperous unification or any other origin (hegemony, necrophage) and using tradition and industry scientist get robots tech in 10y. Basicly if you want robots take something else than mechanists.
+ start with Cyborgs
+ works as requirment for Synthetic Ascension
+ There could be anomalies to research poping every 10 year, giving us either robotic tech or some reward so we can expand our robots.
+You start with robot modding tech and can design your starting robot during creation.
+Provide unique 5% speed bonus to mechanist.
There is an always way to pop some bonus with delay so the origin will not be that front loaded.
The droid 2nd level tech from the start could be too much, but ability to custom from start is something.
It is important to notice, that you can get prosperous unification or any other origin (hegemony, necrophage) and using tradition and industry scientist get robots tech in 10y. Basicly if you want robots take something else than mechanists.
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Latent psionic doesn't give you extra pops to work more jobs, and droids can work specialist jobs as well as worker.
latent psionic is strong, but not as strong as more pops imo.
Bottom one is the trait all your pops start with they get a bonus research and +5% more energy and they can sometimes get psychic trait... Seems pretty strong to me. Not to mention they can also make robots, you just gotta set the policy.
It IS strong, but not as strong as growing two pops at the same time that can fill science jobs, right of the bat.
I'm not saying that Mechanist doesn't need a buff, I'm saying they shouldn't start with Droid tech. My hope would be giving them the ability to mod robots from the nation creator.
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So wouldn't it be fair to give them the tech to research droids rather than them completely having droid tech? You know cuz teachers of the shroud start with psionic pops and mind over matter research option open, overtuned I think actually has the first tech to genetic ascension already researched. All three probably should have access to their respective techs right?
You know what also would grant a +% bonus to Research from jobs?
Having 100% Habitability on all planets. That thing Robots have, which is one of the things that makes them very strong in the early game.
Machinist is fine. The only thing I'd add is the ability to set their traits at the start. Maaaaybe give them Robomodding as a locked research option so they don't have to go hunting for it. But anything beyond that is unnecessary. Robots are real good early game both for raw resource output and pop growth, and are in many ways substantially better than Latent Psionic, especially if your early planet selection is less than ideal.
I'd be fine with that option, but they DO start with access to robots. Its on the tin.
I'd say let them have droids as a permanent research option, that would work for me.
Cyborgs and synths are now going to be separate Ascension Paths, and tbh thats just copying teachers of the shroud. Replacing an enforcer from the capital with a robot assembly Job I think would be a nice change, it's simple and effective, without limiting roleplay options.