Unofficial SMEP for DD

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A little question: which countries can be splitted, if after german defeat one part is controlled by comintern and the other by the the allies?

When you say splitted, you mean two different countries? If you do, its Germany and Italy, but I know France has the potential to be in that group.( In order to split a country, you need the original game to have 2 countries, that have the same cores. For example, DDR - DFR, Italy - RSI, France Vichy -France, Nationalist Spain - Republican Spain, Comm China - Nationalist China)

 

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Historically Republican Spain was finally defeated in early 1939, I believe. But the situation became hopeless for them a lot quicker.

I knew that, and thats the problem! I didnt manage to stretch the SCW more than 1.5 years...

 

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File not found??

Ive just replaced the links for version i with egslims link(rapidshare sucks...)
it should now work.

 

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I knew that, and thats the problem! I didnt manage to stretch the SCW more than 1.5 years...

Perhaps if you add more garrissons (or reduce Inf and Arm) and decrease IC. That might work - more defensive power, less offensive for both sides.

 

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Ive just replaced the links for version i with egslims link(rapidshare sucks...)
it should now work.

thx ill try it when im home ^^

 

[wiguy]

Im glad that it worked, I already checked it at least 5 times . No more problems with Chinese partition.

Now, about Turkey, thats what I did as well... no more annexing. About the dissent, I dont realy care about Turkey getting dissent to be honest, and anyway, considering that it is a coup made with the help of the Soviets, I dont think its not that the dissent hit is weird. Seems kind of reasonable, for those circunstances .

Im now actually playing HOI! First time this month . Im trying to see if Germany can challenge me as the SU. Im now trying to fix a lot of problems with the "Anschluss - Allience" path. Ive just got seen Germany picking it second time in a row!
Only 1% chance, but it changes the game completely, its one of my favourite SMEP a-historical paths. ( However, it makes Germany weaker... and Austria is not the greatest ally... even with the spoils it gets... )
I think Im going to pummle the Axis easily. Last time I played as SU Germany tried to break threw the Baltics and given my Armoured div's a very easy encircling route. Hopefully, Germany will prove more fearsome in my current game.
Hopefully Ill fix all the problems with that path, and enjoy a nice game as SU.(I hope it will inspire me to create WW3 events, since no one found new bugs...)

I think i saw the alliance two times... In about two hundred games
For some reason i have yet to see germany beat soviet. Except when i'm playing axis ofcourse. It's a bit weird i think, because after DDDaim came out i saw them winning all the time. And when i started using DD-smep germany was regularly beaten. Anyway, the game is at it's best when those two are competitive, so if you can make that happen, it would be great!

A human playing SU is'nt what it should be unfortunately. It's way too easy. Even at very hard it's easy. Even playing germany on very hard isn't that hard. The ai quite simply isn't up to the task. It is fun though I hope you kick som nazi-butt

I beat the uk today... The uk surrender is quite nice, and it is bugfree at the moment. I don't know if you have seen it lately, but germany gets nothing from it. Germany gives up the french coast, and get nothing in return. They get iraq as puppet (wow), and makes uk loose india and a bunch of islands. So i have a few improvement suggestions:
1. Give germany oman and yemen as puppets.
2. The uk annexes belgium. Give congo to germany along with a good bunch of other african provinces. Personally i think uk should loose every african province, maybe keep freetown. Vichy should also loose some colonies to germany. It seems very weird that germany won't get any provinces.
3. Uk should loose it's cores in india.
4. Spain should get some african provinces from vichy, but only if they agree to join axis after uk surrender. Maybe keep the provinces from the vichy-events if they went to war before that.
5. British islands in the indian ocean should go to italy and vichy.

What do you think? I have some time today, so i thought i might give it a shot If you don't mind of course...

 

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I have found a bug. The soviets took a part of the netherlands including amsterdam, the other part was taken by UK after the german surrender. However, no event fired seceding these provinces to SU and the nethrlands remained occupied -- partly by the SU, partly by UK.

 

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I think i saw the alliance two times... In about two hundred games
For some reason i have yet to see germany beat soviet. Except when i'm playing axis ofcourse. It's a bit weird i think, because after DDDaim came out i saw them winning all the time. And when i started using DD-smep germany was regularly beaten. Anyway, the game is at it's best when those two are competitive, so if you can make that happen, it would be great!

A human playing SU is'nt what it should be unfortunately. It's way too easy. Even at very hard it's easy. Even playing germany on very hard isn't that hard. The ai quite simply isn't up to the task. It is fun though I hope you kick som nazi-butt

I beat the uk today... The uk surrender is quite nice, and it is bugfree at the moment. I don't know if you have seen it lately, but germany gets nothing from it. Germany gives up the french coast, and get nothing in return. They get iraq as puppet (wow), and makes uk loose india and a bunch of islands. So i have a few improvement suggestions:
1. Give germany oman and yemen as puppets.
2. The uk annexes belgium. Give congo to germany along with a good bunch of other african provinces. Personally i think uk should loose every african province, maybe keep freetown. Vichy should also loose some colonies to germany. It seems very weird that germany won't get any provinces.
3. Uk should loose it's cores in india.
4. Spain should get some african provinces from vichy, but only if they agree to join axis after uk surrender. Maybe keep the provinces from the vichy-events if they went to war before that.
5. British islands in the indian ocean should go to italy and vichy.

What do you think? I have some time today, so i thought i might give it a shot If you don't mind of course...

Well, I saw the British surrender event. Yes, it doesnt make Germany stronger, but the point of their surrender was to make GB realy weak ( and it does become weak )
About your suggestions:
1.Isnt that quite irrelevant? I think they already get them as puppet ( but only if they capture it while they are still in war with GB, I know thats how it works with India )
2. Actually, I think all the African property of UK should go to Italy and Germany.
Do you have a suggestion how to split it excactly?
3.Well, I dont think it matters much, does it realy bother you? (It will take some time to create such event, and I realy dont understand why is it needed)
4. I can swear I saw an event that gives Spain some part of Africa... Ill check it now.
5.I think its more logical that they would go to Japan. Speaking of Japan, maybe I should create a "Japan joins Axis" event, in situations like GB lose, or SU lose Moscow for example... what do you think?

Last thing, I think Vichy should join the axis after UK lose( especially since they become much more helpful when GER gives them most of their property back...)
Shall I add it?

EDIT: About Germany, well, it is much stronger now, after my "tweaking".

Oh, and Spain does get part of Vichy after UK surrenders, if Spain is in axis

 

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I have found a bug. The soviets took a part of the netherlands including amsterdam, the other part was taken by UK after the german surrender. However, no event fired seceding these provinces to SU and the nethrlands remained occupied -- partly by the SU, partly by UK.

Intresting... I thought I fixed that a long time ago. Can you please show me a screenshot?

 

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Just for everyone who wondered, this is how China is partitioned after losing the war againts Japan:



Notice Mengkuku and Chinese western border ( and Communist China, yes, it is suppose to exist! )

EDIT: Yay! Finally learned how to use Imageshack

 

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Well, I saw the British surrender event. Yes, it doesnt make Germany stronger, but the point of their surrender was to make GB realy weak ( and it does become weak )
About your suggestions:
1.Isnt that quite irrelevant? I think they already get them as puppet ( but only if they capture it while they are still in war with GB, I know thats how it works with India )
2. Actually, I think all the African property of UK should go to Italy and Germany.
Do you have a suggestion how to split it excactly?
3.Well, I dont think it matters much, does it realy bother you? (It will take some time to create such event, and I realy dont understand why is it needed)
4. I can swear I saw an event that gives Spain some part of Africa... Ill check it now.
5.I think its more logical that they would go to Japan. Speaking of Japan, maybe I should create a "Japan joins Axis" event, in situations like GB lose, or SU lose Moscow for example... what do you think?

Last thing, I think Vichy should join the axis after UK lose( especially since they become much more helpful when GER gives them most of their property back...)
Shall I add it?

EDIT: About Germany, well, it is much stronger now, after my "tweaking".

Oh, and Spain does get part of Vichy after UK surrenders, if Spain is in axis

It seems unfair as a german player to give up the french coast in return for nothing. But making germany much stronger is ofcourse out of the question, i just wanted to point out that they should get something in return.
1. There a few available resources for germany in yemen and oman. A few metal and oil. And, if GB falls before barbarossa, these are resources valuable to germany. Germany is in any case very strong in the region, and are the sole power of the middle east after uk surrenders. I was actually thinking about making saudi arabia a german puppet too! Yemen and Oman are not that important, but they're important enough to bother with i think
2. Well, on this we agree This is what i had in mind:

3. UK cores on india is a formality. And it shouldn't cause any problems. But the GB surrender should mark a new world order, and in this "new world order" gb wouldn't have indian claims.
4. Yes, ther's an event giving spain some vichy holdings, but for some reason they have to give up some spanish holdings in return?! It's highly unlikely that vichy and spain would literally trade provinces to make a more uniform map!
5. Diego Garcia Island may go to japan, but only under the condition that japan holds india. In the case of gb surrendering before barbarossa, they should go to vichy or italy. Mauritius should go the vichy in any case. Italy may get the seychelles. In the screenshot above the islands are out of sigth, but i gave all of the to vichy. But both diego garcia and seychelles are higly debatable.

Japan and germany never had a close relationship. Both SU and GB is a serious threat to Japan, therefore i think that germany shoul have beaten both of them. But i like the idea It's also nice for germany to get the carrier techs. And armor/mech for japan.

And about vichy. They should join the axis after gb surrender yes. But make them atleast fascist or maybe even nazi.

Oh and one more thing (as usual ) Portugal should get some kind of bribe if they join axis after uk surrender. Maybe banana or another vp. A cool thing would be portugal demanding south african territory, and resulting in portugal joining the axis and declaring war on south africa.

 

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It seems unfair as a german player to give up the french coast in return for nothing. But making germany much stronger is ofcourse out of the question, i just wanted to point out that they should get something in return.
1. There a few available resources for germany in yemen and oman. A few metal and oil. And, if GB falls before barbarossa, these are resources valuable to germany. Germany is in any case very strong in the region, and are the sole power of the middle east after uk surrenders. I was actually thinking about making saudi arabia a german puppet too! Yemen and Oman are not that important, but they're important enough to bother with i think
2. Well, on this we agree This is what i had in mind:

3. UK cores on india is a formality. And it shouldn't cause any problems. But the GB surrender should mark a new world order, and in this "new world order" gb wouldn't have indian claims.
4. Yes, ther's an event giving spain some vichy holdings, but for some reason they have to give up some spanish holdings in return?! It's highly unlikely that vichy and spain would literally trade provinces to make a more uniform map!
5. Diego Garcia Island may go to japan, but only under the condition that japan holds india. In the case of gb surrendering before barbarossa, they should go to vichy or italy. Mauritius should go the vichy in any case. Italy may get the seychelles. In the screenshot above the islands are out of sigth, but i gave all of the to vichy. But both diego garcia and seychelles are higly debatable.

Japan and germany never had a close relationship. Both SU and GB is a serious threat to Japan, therefore i think that germany shoul have beaten both of them. But i like the idea It's also nice for germany to get the carrier techs. And armor/mech for japan.

And about vichy. They should join the axis after gb surrender yes. But make them atleast fascist or maybe even nazi.

Oh and one more thing (as usual ) Portugal should get some kind of bribe if they join axis after uk surrender. Maybe banana or another vp. A cool thing would be portugal demanding south african territory, and resulting in portugal joining the axis and declaring war on south africa.

1. OK, Ill make Saudia, Oman and Yemen German puppets, thats all for now, since they are the only ones in the middle east which are actually valubale(Iraq is important as well, but GER already gets them as puppet )

2. Where did you take that picture from?
Looks nice .

3. About India, yes, you are right, but I think that even in this "new world order" things can change, and countries may keep their hopes of becoming empires again. Remember that GB stays independent after the surrender, and the tide can always turn...

4. Can you be more specific? What actually happends in that event?

5. WOW, that is complicated, I never guessed I would bother changing the ownership of mauritzius!


About Vichy, I will make her a part of the axis after UK surrenders, but I dont think government changing is neccesary.
About Portugal, I was actually thinking of another idea, I was thinking that Spain should start a war with Portugal in order to "unite" Iberia and inherit Portugal's empire. Yes, I know, completely ahistorical, but I prefer gameplay over history.(Portugal is useless... I rather make it part of Spain, after the war of course. The nice thing is that with Portugal's African property and the spoils from Vichy, Spain will become a real empire , and a major, if I give them cores all over Portugal )

 

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1. OK, Ill make Saudia, Oman and Yemen German puppets, thats all for now, since they are the only ones in the middle east which are actually valubale(Iraq is important as well, but GER already gets them as puppet )

2. Where did you take that picture from?
Looks nice .

3. About India, yes, you are right, but I think that even in this "new world order" things can change, and countries may keep their hopes of becoming empires again. Remember that GB stays independent after the surrender, and the tide can always turn...

4. Can you be more specific? What actually happends in that event?

5. WOW, that is complicated, I never guessed I would bother changing the ownership of mauritzius!


About Vichy, I will make her a part of the axis after UK surrenders, but I dont think government changing is neccesary.
About Portugal, I was actually thinking of another idea, I was thinking that Spain should start a war with Portugal in order to "unite" Iberia and inherit Portugal's empire. Yes, I know, completely ahistorical, but I prefer gameplay over history.(Portugal is useless... I rather make it part of Spain, after the war of course. The nice thing is that with Portugal's African property and the spoils from Vichy, Spain will become a real empire , and a major, if I give them cores all over Portugal )

Like your ideas...

 

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How about if the UK captures Bombay, Delhi, Colombo, and a few of the northern provinces, and the surrender event has fired, it triggers an event giving them claims on the rest of India, paving the way for the "Return of His Brittanic Majesty" to India, perhaps those exact five words, they sound very impressive IMO.

 

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Like your ideas...

Realy?

 

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How about if the UK captures Bombay, Delhi, Colombo, and a few of the northern provinces, and the surrender event has fired, it triggers an event giving them claims on the rest of India, paving the way for the "Return of His Brittanic Majesty" to India, perhaps those exact five words, they sound very impressive IMO.

Those are nice ideas, but for now on my intentions are to ensure that there are no bugs with what is already in the game. I suspect that Japan's surrender is severly bugged ( too many possibilities... I tried to fix a bug that was caused because Holland turned Communist... )
For now on, Im also trying to mess up with game balancing.

Anyway, thanks for your advice.
Every advice is welcome here

 

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Well I don't think it would be too problematic, one of the conditions could be just the UK Surrenders event firing as planned, and then them controlling said provinces. Not a very difficult event, I suppose I could whip it up later if I had to. I don't have all that much experience with event construction, but I might be able to bumble my way through it.

 

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Well I don't think it would be too problematic, one of the conditions could be just the UK Surrenders event firing as planned, and then them controlling said provinces. Not a very difficult event, I suppose I could whip it up later if I had to. I don't have all that much experience with event construction, but I might be able to bumble my way through it.

Thanks for the offering to help!

Now, what I actually meant was that Im not that intrest of changing minor things right now. I want to ensure that everything that the mod already includes works fine, without any bugs. However, if you create the event on your own, there is no reason for me to not include it in the next version.

The best way you can help is to play and check if things go well.
The hardest parts are the partitions, esspecially because there are so many possibilities. I havent checked the possibility of Ukraine and Belarus being liberated by allies for example, and Im still not sure wether Japan's partition is realy fixed. One thing is for sure, when all those bugs will be fixed I will be able to focus on creating new things, my favorite.

 

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1. OK, Ill make Saudia, Oman and Yemen German puppets, thats all for now, since they are the only ones in the middle east which are actually valubale(Iraq is important as well, but GER already gets them as puppet )

2. Where did you take that picture from?
Looks nice .

3. About India, yes, you are right, but I think that even in this "new world order" things can change, and countries may keep their hopes of becoming empires again. Remember that GB stays independent after the surrender, and the tide can always turn...

4. Can you be more specific? What actually happends in that event?

5. WOW, that is complicated, I never guessed I would bother changing the ownership of mauritzius!


About Vichy, I will make her a part of the axis after UK surrenders, but I dont think government changing is neccesary.
About Portugal, I was actually thinking of another idea, I was thinking that Spain should start a war with Portugal in order to "unite" Iberia and inherit Portugal's empire. Yes, I know, completely ahistorical, but I prefer gameplay over history.(Portugal is useless... I rather make it part of Spain, after the war of course. The nice thing is that with Portugal's African property and the spoils from Vichy, Spain will become a real empire , and a major, if I give them cores all over Portugal )

The picture is from my own DDSmep, i used it before that first guy and egslim made a more or less bugfree DDSmep. I made a few changes, like that one. I just loaded an old save game. I'll be happy to provide you with necessary events.
The event where spain gets national holdings is event 4009 in your files.

I like your idea of portugal! I actually never thought of spain declaring war. But since there was a real possibility, make it atleast an "join us or die"-event, with 80/20 war/alliance. Btw, portugal i not useless!

And i have an idea for a chinese twist in the autro-hungarian-german-alliance-thingy. It's only in my head for now, but i'll jot it down later.

 

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The picture is from my own DDSmep, i used it before that first guy and egslim made a more or less bugfree DDSmep. I made a few changes, like that one. I just loaded an old save game. I'll be happy to provide you with necessary events.
The event where spain gets national holdings is event 4009 in your files.

I like your idea of portugal! I actually never thought of spain declaring war. But since there was a real possibility, make it atleast an "join us or die"-event, with 80/20 war/alliance. Btw, portugal i not useless!

And i have an idea for a chinese twist in the autro-hungarian-german-alliance-thingy. It's only in my head for now, but i'll jot it down later.

Great, I will soon include it in DD-SMEP ( you just have to remind me )

I want to tell you that I started working on a Soviet "new order" in Europe. I just thought that it was a shame that the allies/axis/japan have their prosperity spheres and such while Soviets only get puppets with no possibility to expand. The event triggers will be SU ruling pretty much entire Eastern and Central Europe(Yugoslavia is exceptional, cause it has a chance to join the Comintern without being a puppet, so I included it only as Soviet ally, not puppet, since if it becomes a puppet, it will be in the Comintern anyway) and the most important, ruling over entire Germany.(Germany is united under DDR)

The new order will include: Poland being reduced greatly, it will lose its entire coastline, Eastern Prussia, and the "Eastern" part of the country(including Warsaw).
Romania will suffer greatly as well, losing its coastline, Transilvanya, and the entire inner Northern part of the country. It even losses Ploetsi.
DDR will lose most of its coastline, including Hamburg(not realy part of the coastline...).
Czekoslovakia, Hungary and Bulgaria will have only "minor" losses. Each will lose one important province. CZE losses Kocise, HUN losses Debrecen, Bulgaria losses Varna.

Now, for the tricky part of the event, the second Winter War.( since now Finland doesnt become a Soviet puppet after the war), which can cause the West to intervene(and cause WW3, duh ).
Stalin will demand more lands from the Finns in claims that those are needed as extra buffer zone. If the Finns accept Stalin's demands, you will soon see a "Communist Coup supported by the Red army" event firing and Finland will become a Stalinist puppet. If the Finns choose to fight, the second winter war will start. Finland will ask the west for help, and the west will have 3 paths: Aid the Finnish people(materials, supplies volunteer divisions etc...),
start WW3(allying with Finland againts Soviet Union, includes automatic aid to Finland, the aid will be greater than in the "Aid the Finnish people" path)
, and the last path, of course, stay out of the conflict.


I hope I will finish making all of it today and also manage to defeat Germany(hopefully with no allies "aid") and give some screenshots of the new Soviet order.

What do you think?