Universalis II - The campaign

[Aladar]

to be honost the most logical choise to inherit spain is portugal eitherway even if we need a way to boost poland/italy it hardly makes sence to give em spain

Well i think i'm with Drake on this one. If we give Spain to Italy or Poland, Portugal will just end up with all of Iberia anyway.

So if Martin is out, which i would understand, i say we let Portugal inherit Spain.

And on another note:

Is the downfall of Spain due to the campaign setup or more Martins own fault?
- is the something we should change before Uni III

 

[martmol]

Well i think i'm with Drake on this one. If we give Spain to Italy or Poland, Portugal will just end up with all of Iberia anyway.

So if Martin is out, which i would understand, i say we let Portugal inherit Spain.

i'm not out, as long as i can annoy mats in this game

Is the downfall of Spain due to the campaign setup or more Martins own fault?
- is the something we should change before Uni III

my own fault, i can make a long list of things i done wrong

 

[Aladar]

That's the spirit. 1000d award from the English coffers for such courage.

 

[unmerged(49695)]

hm what about boosting poland and italy hm? specially poland, italy has like 2 or 3 times my income =P Werent it for sweds mianly, and other nations funding polands build up, id be dead :<

and i was lucky i had such nice events giving me full centra and almost full quality plus some moves towards free citezens and plutocracy, without them, polish armies would be useless in war

 

[Mats_SX]

i'm not out, as long as i can annoy mats in this game

Awesome

That means 1 less issue for all of us. It also means I won't have to argue my way out of inheriting all of Spain (which I don't want to).

It should also be noted that while Poland can not be accounted for to defend herself, Sweden seem to be more than happy to keep them running. And as that situation lies at the moment, Poland does play an important part in the game still, at least in her region. Italy and Spain are still far more powerful than Poland, albeit they being in worse positions. It shouldn't be horridly impossible to keep them playing significant parts yet.

and i was lucky i had such nice events giving me full centra and almost full quality plus some moves towards free citezens and plutocracy, without them, polish armies would be useless in war

Whoa! What the hell?! You got a total of 26(!) slider moves different from last session! I've never seen such radical change in so few years! That is MORE than 1 slider move per year played!!

 

[Aladar]

How did the Italian fight for freedom end btw?

I was engaged elsewhere at the time.

 

[Mats_SX]

How did the Italian fight for freedom end btw?

I was engaged elsewhere at the time.

France took 2 provinces and Brandenburg took Genoa with CoT.

And I am generating randoms now, btw.

Oh, and bump on this:

3) I recon that since random can go quite high with the siege value, future bought leaders, from the session AFTER the comming one, should be limited to 6662, that should ensure that your worst 17 stat generel is a 5552 (in effect a 5661)

4) Random generals will AFTER the comming session be limited to 2221/4444 with an average of 3332 and a lifespan of 25/35 years with 30 as average. Conquistadors will get same stats but 15/25 years with 20 as average.

5) Random admirals will AFTER the comming session be limited to 222/444 with an average of 2,5 in all and a lifespan 25/35 years with 30 as average.
Explorers will get same stats but 15/25 years with 20 as average.

If you are ghosted, be that because you have a date or you go on a trip with your parents, you are not given

Ontime bonus
Years played bonus
Any war bonus

Unless ofcourse you had a sub, in which case you are given all the usual bonusses.

This should be added to post #1, Aladar.

Also, I still think we need an update on

- vassal rules
- peace rules

 

[unmerged(49695)]

Whoa! What the hell?! You got a total of 26(!) slider moves different from last session! I've never seen such radical change in so few years! That is MORE than 1 slider move per year played!!

awesome indeed! go poland! Also apart from the usual thanks my money givers, i wanted to thank hal for making it possible for poland to capture its first port and have a massive navy of 5 warships!

 

[Mats_SX]

awesome indeed! go poland! Also apart from the usual thanks my money givers, i wanted to thank hal for making it possible for poland to capture its first port and have a massive navy of 5 warships!

And previously you complained over bad events...

Aladar, can I get event 220010 slept?

 

[unmerged(49695)]

And previously you complained over bad events...

Aladar, can I get event 220010 slept?

i didnt know id get such good ones. And If mats gets that one sleeped, i want a bad one of mine sleeped aswell

 

[Aladar]

And previously you complained over bad events...

Aladar, can I get event 220010 slept?

I guess.....i tried to release Argentina or Brazil but i couldn't.

 

[martmol]

i will play further in this game IF someone else takes over sweden or Brandenburg in the watkabaoi campaign

 

[Mats_SX]

i didnt know id get such good ones. And If mats gets that one sleeped, i want a bad one of mine sleeped aswell

Is it a stupid colonial event? I am not asking for +5 Quality; I am asking to not be unfairly exploited by an enemy. If Brazil revolts off of me, it's my fault. But that doesn't mean they should get ALL of it. That is just silly force historicity, and has little place in this campaign.

I guess.....i tried to release Argentina or Brazil but i couldn't.

If you would have succeeded I would of course have filed a major complaint

There is no reason to create colonial AIs. It can never serve for better gameplay for any of us.

 

[Aladar]

Is it a stupid colonial event? I am not asking for +5 Quality; I am asking to not be unfairly exploited by an enemy. If Brazil revolts off of me, it's my fault. But that doesn't mean they should get ALL of it. That is just silly force historicity, and has little place in this campaign.

If you would have succeeded I would of course have filed a major complaint

There is no reason to create colonial AIs. It can never serve for better gameplay for any of us.

Well i would only have been to annoy you ofcourse

Post it in the tracker or i'll forget it.

 

[Mats_SX]

Well i would only have been to annoy you ofcourse

Post it in the tracker or i'll forget it.

Fair enough

 

[HALNY (HAL)]

awesome indeed! go poland! Also apart from the usual thanks my money givers, i wanted to thank hal for making it possible for poland to capture its first port and have a massive navy of 5 warships!

I need to say I very very like our game for one reason: this is the first game Poland receive so much help! :rofl: Usually people just want to annex me

As for Italy and Spain. As martin said he made many mistakes and now Spain pay for them. And Italy made huge error by letting France to have south Italy - reminder - OE toke Napoli and Apualia and was going to sell them to Venice, but they decided it was better to ally with France and dow Turks. Time showed it was short shot. Anyway I tried to boost Italy, but suddenly Brandenburg showed up and there was not much I could do. Even if I will now win war with KJ (it seems he lost on sea and is out of money, so it is just matter of time) it will not much help Ear. Someone need to become protector of Italy as Sweden is for Poland.

 

[martmol]

i will play further in this game IF someone else takes over sweden or Brandenburg in the watkabaoi campaign

bump

 

[bluelotus]

bump

You are aware of the fact that the watkboi game has been asking for subs from us for weeks by now and nobody could sub, right?

 

[Aladar]

Damn it's Sct. Patricks Day on tuesday......i ought to be out drinking with something green on.

 

[Monkii-sama]

So how is my little empire doing? The stats are confusing me, I had set my sliders to tech LT and now it has changed. Also saw some revolts and stuff.