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Aladar said:
i could...the exact options which were used by tonio, can be find at the old generations...but i guess drake or john did it before?
stock trading in moscow is stopped untill friday, btw...but i think tonio doesnt have anything there...
he answert my icq earlyer today so he can't be that far
and ye it isn't exactly hard to do the leaders if you know what the stats ect have to be
and ye it isn't exactly hard to do the leaders if you know what the stats ect have to be
Aladar said:
Put in post #1.
About hired leaders. I mind that extra cost for them is the solution.
Current reality - everybody (who is around war) is spending all points for best possible leader.
New reality - everybody (who is around war) is spending all points for best possible leader.
The idea of PP is killed, since leader is most important in war, and we can`t share the points to other things of country development, like it was intended.
So i would leave the points like they are, but limit the possibility and max stats of hired leaders... Or would kick them completely from the game.
King John said:
There are two options to solve the SP (single-playing):
- ignore drake and martmol
- boot drake and martmol
for me both options are same :rofl:
EarendilHE said:
stock trading is for stupid people for easy money. I prefer brain-working for real production.
Tonioz said:
or reduce cost of economic features to so where more tempted to spend it that way instead of tryng to get yet another general(even if hes only 4/4/4)
The current solution to the leader problem is pretty good. It will encourage people to only by 444ish leaders, because now an uberleader will cost twice as much as this. Some people will just save their points up and get an uberleader every other session instead of every session, but that doesn't really sound too bad... I wouldn't want the option to disappear entirely.
Improving the economic benefits of the other things would be a good idea. I was thinking already that we should increase the gold reward to maybe 100 gold per point.
Improving the economic benefits of the other things would be a good idea. I was thinking already that we should increase the gold reward to maybe 100 gold per point.
King John said:
the gold reward needs to be updated, it isn't nearly asgood as it was at start
however some economic rewards are just way to expensive to bother tbh, having them reviewed after this session would be a good idea
manus should probaly be a bit cheaper for example, same as deflation
i deny your ideas.
Military countries will spend all points on leaders, except NAP sessions, other countries will spend on own economical/other needs. Tweaking rates doesn`t change the situation.
Military countries will spend all points on leaders, except NAP sessions, other countries will spend on own economical/other needs. Tweaking rates doesn`t change the situation.
Tonio, the original problem that we tried to address was that every country was able to field an uberleader every session. Now we have rebalanced the costs of leaders so that this is for the most part no longer the case. Solutions can only be offered as quickly as problems are brought to attention .
You have a point about the points system, but neither of your solutions are practical because they both involve nerfing the leader side of it, which isn't necessary and I don't think anybody else really wants to do that. What we ideally ought to do is have two different points systems, one for economics and one solely for leaders, essentially an MT system, allowing every country to spend their fair share of points on economic things.
. You have a point about the points system, but neither of your solutions are practical because they both involve nerfing the leader side of it, which isn't necessary and I don't think anybody else really wants to do that. What we ideally ought to do is have two different points systems, one for economics and one solely for leaders, essentially an MT system, allowing every country to spend their fair share of points on economic things.
I'm too tried (still working) to comment all this posts about leaders, pp and cultures. Just do as you think is the best.
leaders still are not generated? aladar, you can do the edit before, i think...the save just has to be uploaded after it again...
aladar, you can do the edit before, i think...the save just has to be uploaded after it again...
EarendilHE said:leaders still are not generated?
And I didn't see yet how much inflation will be added...or did I overlook a post?
i have no news from Aladar about he finished editions to give me the save file.
Aladar (13:27:49 8/10/2008)
Hi Tonio, please generate the random leaders so i can get on with editing.
Aladar (13:28:13 8/10/2008)
Ahh Tonio, i was starting to be concerned about you
Aladar (13:36:19 8/10/2008)
Perhaps i should just edit the save and then send it to you for leaders?
Tonio (13:53:36 8/10/2008)
yups
Tonio (14:02:27 8/10/2008)
i was in long trip, just returned and busy with work
you just need to upload new save to stats
Aladar (14:52:08 8/10/2008)
no idea how to do that
Aladar (14:52:23 8/10/2008)
so better you generate leaders so i can dl from stats and edit that
Tonio (14:57:36 8/10/2008)
i`m busy
send me save later
Aladar (13:27:49 8/10/2008)
Hi Tonio, please generate the random leaders so i can get on with editing.
Aladar (13:28:13 8/10/2008)
Ahh Tonio, i was starting to be concerned about you
Aladar (13:36:19 8/10/2008)
Perhaps i should just edit the save and then send it to you for leaders?
Tonio (13:53:36 8/10/2008)
yups
Tonio (14:02:27 8/10/2008)
i was in long trip, just returned and busy with work
you just need to upload new save to stats
Aladar (14:52:08 8/10/2008)
no idea how to do that
Aladar (14:52:23 8/10/2008)
so better you generate leaders so i can dl from stats and edit that
Tonio (14:57:36 8/10/2008)
i`m busy
send me save later
Tonioz said:
just ask tonio for the password (or me per pm)...and use the link provided in the MP-stats-thread...quite easy
Everybody knows that password, I thinkEarendilHE said:just ask tonio for the password (or me per pm)...and use the link provided in the MP-stats-thread...quite easy
Anyway, Aladar should be ashamed at having played eu2MP for so long and not know how to upload stats or how the thing works
It ain't that hard. A "same-year-save" will just replace the earlier one. It is perfectly possible to edit half the edits, then just upload the new save to stats. And then if someone made leaders to it, just dl it and do the rest of the edits.