Unity Modifiers: how do they work?

[Cpt. Beercan]

Hi,

I was hoping someone could answer the above question?

I've taken Fanatic Pacifist for +40% Unity points.

When I look at the attached screenshot, I read it as saying I produce 11 Unity points, and I also have a 40% bonus which is only applied to a base point of one? Netting me, with a Leader bonus of +12%, +52% of base one, for 1.52 points.

http://imgur.com/a/SfDfY

So my 40% bonus always gets me a flat 0.4 a month, irrespective of unity output?

Am i just reading that wrong?

Cheers,

Cpt. Beercan

 

[RevanOn3r]

You have over 600 unity points and can spend them on a tradition to gain more modifiers to your empire, click the first notification icon shown on your image. You probably knew that.

Looks normal to me, build more buildings that net unity points and your amount per month will change and your modifier should apply.

 

[Sutehk]

Yeah, that looks lame, the 40% is only applied to your base, not your production. Doesn't sound right.

 

[RevanOn3r]

Ohh I misread. No it can't be, my base is also only 1, but my monthly income is 243 right now.

 

[Cpt. Beercan]

Ohh I misread. No it can't be, my base is also only 1, but my monthly income is 243 right now.View attachment 253654

Yes, but it says:

190.86 produced
51.22 from sectors

For 242.08

Then you get base one, 1 point.

All of your % based modifiers are applied, and 1 becomes 1.89.

So 1.89 + 242.08 is 243.97.

What is this base one point, why is calculated separately from everything else?

 

[RevanOn3r]

You sir, should have a conversation with the Infinity Machine!

Great analysis, alas, I cannot answer your question, but hoped I help you in the pursuit of yours.

 

[Cpt. Beercan]

You sir, should have a conversation with the Infinity Machine!

Great analysis, alas, I cannot answer your question, but hoped I help you in the pursuit of yours.

Thank you.

This might sound a little silly, but who or what is the Infinity Engine?

 

[RevanOn3r]

Thank you.

This might sound a little silly, but who or what is the Infinity Engine?

It's one of the Leviathan encounters in the Leviathan Story Pack. I won't spoil too much, but it has an equation to solve infinity. Your math on the modified unity points reminded me of my encounter with the event in the game, it's kind of a faction you can communicate with, and the conversation is awesome.

 

[Cpt. Beercan]

Actually ignore me, the bonuses are applied to the planet production, but you only see the bonus on the planet screen (when you mouse over a Unity producing building),

 

[Sutehk]

I was wondering that, my next question was gonna be how many ethics buildings you had.

 

[The Founder]

1 is what everyone get's.

Produced is what the Planets and Sectors produce. And the bonus to unity was already calculated on Planetary Level, as the local pop Happiness has to be included at that step as well (applying Percentile Values after another produces different results).

So that "Produced: 11.00" already has the +40% Fanatic Pacifist, +12% Ruler and the Happiness Bonus from the pop working the Unity Buildings calculated in. Wich happens to be a value without Digits, by pure chance.

As comparision, my Unitarians in 1.5.1 beta look like this:

They have a total Percentile bonus of:
30 + 40 +15 +15 + 10 = 110%
+110% Bonus, wich means 210% of the normal yield. Wich is why there is written "2.10".

It is a bit hard to figure out how much the planets produce raw (just buildings), as the pops tend to be quite happy too.

Also a warning: These guys actually get Unity TOO fast. I kept getting slots, without having the tech requirements to unlock stuff. A slightly less extreme build should work as well.