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I've got some more articles with pictures from the same Danish site (sorry but I'm not gonna translate them all :( )

The Imperial Camel Corps Brigade
http://www.chakoten.dk/imperial_camel_corps.html

The Belgian army in 1914:
http://www.chakoten.dk/belg_org_1914.html

Lord Strathcona's Horse (Royal Canadians)
http://www.chakoten.dk/strathconas_horse.html

The Canadian Grenadier Guards
http://www.chakoten.dk/gren_guards_canada.html

The Canadian Motor Machine Gun Brigade part 1
http://www.chakoten.dk/can_mg_motor_1.html

Om The Canadian Motor Machine Gun Brigade,
Supplementhttp://www.chakoten.dk/can_mg_motor_supp.html

The Newfoundland Regiment
http://www.chakoten.dk/newf_land_reg_1.html

Canadian expeditionary corps 1914
http://www.chakoten.dk/plancher/canada_ekspkorps1914.html

The Ceylon Planters Rifle Corps
http://www.chakoten.dk/cprc_wwi.html

1/2nd London Heavy Battery, Royal Garrison Artillery, Territorial Force
http://www.chakoten.dk/1st_2nd_lhb.html

1st Bn. Middlesex Regiment in action at Néry, 1 September 1914 (In English)
http://www.chakoten.dk/nery_010914_3.html

24th (County of London) Bn. The London Regiment (The Queen's), 1914-1918
http://www.chakoten.dk/24thbn_tlr14_18.html

31st Infantry Division og The East Yorkshire Regiment, 1914-1918
http://www.chakoten.dk/31st_div.html

83rd Wallajahbad Light Infantry - Return from Active Service, 1921 (in English)
http://www.chakoten.dk/83rd_wli.html

British Ammunition manufacturing during WWI:
http://www.chakoten.dk/eng_pub.html
http://www.chakoten.dk/eng_ammo_supp.html

Army Veterinary Corps, 1883-1918
http://www.chakoten.dk/ravc.html

British 6 inch guns:
http://www.chakoten.dk/eng_6in_kn.html

British mounted infantry:
http://www.chakoten.dk/engelsk_beredent_infanteri.html

King Edward's Horse
(The King's Overseas Dominions Regiment)
http://www.chakoten.dk/king_edwards_horse.html


This is all from now... I'll see if I get time to post more later.
 

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Swedish navy

name = "HMS Svea" type = heavy_cruiser model = 1 }
name = "HMS Göta" type = heavy_cruiser model = 1 }
name = "HMS Thule" type = heavy_cruiser model = 1 }
name = "HMS Oden" type = heavy_cruiser model = 1 }
name = "HMS Thor" type = heavy_cruiser model = 1 }
name = "HMS Niord" type = heavy_cruiser model = 1 }
name = "HMS Dristigheten" type = heavy_cruiser model = 1 }
name = "HMS Äran" type = heavy_cruiser model = 1 }
name = "HMS Wasa" type = heavy_cruiser model = 1 }
name = "HMS Tapperheten" type = heavy_cruiser model = 1 }
name = "HMS Manligheten" type = heavy_cruiser model = 1 }
name = "HMS Oscar II" type = heavy_cruiser model = 2 }
name = "HMS Älvsnabben" type = light_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS Fylgia" type = heavy_cruiser model = 1 }
name = "HMS Claes Horn" type = light_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS Claes Uggla" type = light_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS Jacob Bagge" type = light_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS Psilander" type = light_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS Örnen" type = light_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS John Ericsson" type = heavy_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS Tirfing" type = heavy_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS Björn" type = heavy_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS Berserk" type = heavy_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS Folke" type = heavy_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS Sölve" type = heavy_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS Ulf" type = heavy_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS Hildur" type = heavy_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS Gerda" type = heavy_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "1:a Ubåtsflottiljen" type = submarine model = 0 }

There should be one level 1 submarine squadron under construction too (5 new submarines entered service 1914).

The 25,4cm guns on Svea and Oden classes was really quite inferior to the 21cm guns on the Dristigheter, Äran and Oscar II classes, but they were similar, and if I make the monitors level 0, Svea and Oden classes really should be level 1. I make Oscar II a level 2 since she had improved secondary armament in fully armoured turrets (8x15,2cm in 4 dual turrets).

Claes Horn, Claes Uggla, Jacob bagge, Örnen and Psilander were designed as torpedo boat squadron leaders.

HMS John Ericsson was a monitor, re-armed with modern guns to have 2x15cm guns and 6x57mm guns. Tirfing, Björn, Berserk, Folke, Sölve, Ulf, Hildur and Gerda were also monitors and all had 2x12cm guns and 8x54 or 47mm guns. All the monitors also had 2xMG. The Monitors were re-armed 1895-1905.

I don't have access to information about torpedo boats and destroyers right now though. :(
 

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"Bodens trupper" should be a 50% garrison I think. Also, there should be a 50% garrison named "Gotlands trupper" placed on the island of Gotland. Both should be capped at 50%.

There should also be four or five uncapped 30-50% garrison units.

Norrlands Landstorm
Skånes Landstorm
Svealands Landstorm
Västergötlands Landstorm

I'll try to make a full coded OoB for Sweden 1914.
 

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Is there a justification for including the Örnen-class torpedo gunboats as separate vessels?

Also, can these vessels really be included in the naval OOB?

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name = "HMS John Ericsson" type = heavy_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS Tirfing" type = heavy_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS Björn" type = heavy_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS Berserk" type = heavy_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS Folke" type = heavy_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS Sölve" type = heavy_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS Ulf" type = heavy_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS Hildur" type = heavy_cruiser model = 0 }
name = "HMS Gerda" type = heavy_cruiser model = 0 }
They are all antiques from the 1860s and 1870s and I am sceptical as to whether they were seaworthy enough to be considered useful by the Swedish Navy. No doubt they were still officially in service, but all navies maintain old vessels for training purposes and harbour duties.
 

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Allenby said:
Is there a justification for including the Örnen-class torpedo gunboats as separate vessels?

Also, can these vessels really be included in the naval OOB?.
Frankly, I can't see why the Swedish naval OOB needed to be revised at all - there was nothing wrong with the one we've already got.

The torpedo cruisers (Örnen, Claes Horn, Jacob Bagge, Psilander and Clas Uggla) are already in the OOB, included in the four destroyer flotillas. (That was, after all, the purpose and role of these ships -they were smaller than many British destroyers (800 tons, compared to the British Acheron class of 1912 which was 1000 tons).

As for the monitors, they're actually represented by the coastal fortresses in Stockholm and Karlskrona provinces.
 

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Well, they were re-armed with modern guns 1905-1910, so I figured they were considered worthy to make that investment, which probably meant that they would have been used should Sweden have gone to war.

What is the reason for having heavy_cruiser 0 as a monitor if you are not going to include such ships? :confused:

Even if you do not update, you still lack HMS Älvsnabben, or is she also counted in the coastal fortresses?
 

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I have a little application: is it possible to change the german navy unit "blücher"? At the moment it´s a class one CA, but it was quite better than the gneisenau-class and this units are CA 2. I think it would be more historical correct, if the blücher becomes the 3rd CA class for the german navy. They only build this "panzerkreuzer" as CA and after that only BC (von der Tann etc.). So I think it would be a good option, if someone likes CAs that he can build "Blücher"-class units.
So maybe someone can change it to a CA 3 or tell me how to do...

Thanks...
 
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Is it final that there's a 1900 battleship class? If yes I would correct all battleships because the HMS Dreadnought is listed as 1900 battleship etc. due to the fact that in 0.2 there wasn't such a type.
 

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Ahem, i don't know if i should post this here but i realized that there aren't names for A-H HQs, so i made some of them using this webpage as source.

Code:
U11;HQ;Armeeoberkommando
U11;HQ;Generalstabschef
U11;HQ;Kommando der Balkanstreitkräfte
U11;HQ;Kommando der Südwestfront
U11;HQ;Heeresfrontkommando "Erzherzog Joseph"
U11;HQ;Heeresfrontkommando "Kövess"
U11;HQ;Heeresfrontkommando "Erzherzog Karl"
U11;HQ;Heeresgruppe "Böhm-Ermolli"
U11;HQ;Heeresgruppe "Erzherzog Karl"
U11;HQ;Heeresgruppe "Conrad"
U11;HQ;Heeresgruppe "Erzherzog Joseph"
U11;HQ;Heeresgruppe "Boroevic"
U11;HQ;Heeresgruppe "Kövess"
U11;HQ;1.Armee
U11;HQ;2.Armee
U11;HQ;3.Armee
U11;HQ;4.Armee
U11;HQ;5.Armee
U11;HQ;1.Isonzoarmee
U11;HQ;2.Isonzoarmee
U11;HQ;Isonzoarmee
U11;HQ;6.Armee
U11;HQ;7.Armee
U11;HQ;10.Armee
U11;HQ;11.Armee
U11;HQ;12.Armee
U11;HQ;Armeegruppe "Kirchbach"
U11;HQ;Armeegruppe "Tersztyánszky"
U11;HQ;Armeegruppe "Kummer"
U11;HQ;Armeegruppe "Pflanzer"
U11;HQ;Armeegruppe "Rohr"
U11;HQ;Armeegruppe "Belluno"
U11;HQ;Armeegruppe "Albanien"
U11;HQ;Landesverteidigungskommando "Tirol"
Please forgive me if i'm mistaken and they are already in the game.
 

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lees said:
Is it final that there's a 1900 battleship class? If yes I would correct all battleships because the HMS Dreadnought is listed as 1900 battleship etc. due to the fact that in 0.2 there wasn't such a type.
Yes there is going to be a 1900 pre-dreadnought. Keep in mind that Monitors will have to be made the last model again because of the complications that arose from having it as the first model.
 

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Kretoxian said:
Please forgive me if i'm mistaken and they are already in the game.
They are not in the game and thank you for doing them. :) However, I would remove those HQs that specifically refer to names or places. Heeresgruppe Kövess might become commanded by Conrad and Heeresgruppe Conrad by General Kövess. The First Isonzo Army might find itself in Galicia...
 

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Allenby said:
They are not in the game and thank you for doing them. However, I would remove those HQs that specifically refer to names or places. Heeresgruppe Kövess might become commanded by Conrad and Heeresgruppe Conrad by General Kövess. The First Isonzo Army might find itself in Galicia...
You're welcome, renamed below:
Code:
U11;HQ;Armeeoberkommando
U11;HQ;Generalstabschef
U11;HQ;Kommando der Balkanstreitkräfte
U11;HQ;Kommando der Südwestfront
U11;HQ;1.Armee
U11;HQ;2.Armee
U11;HQ;3.Armee
U11;HQ;4.Armee
U11;HQ;5.Armee
U11;HQ;6.Armee
U11;HQ;7.Armee
U11;HQ;10.Armee
U11;HQ;11.Armee
U11;HQ;12.Armee
U11;HQ;13.Armee
U11;HQ;14.Armee
U11;HQ;15.Armee
U11;HQ;16.Armee
U11;HQ;17.Armee
U11;HQ;18.Armee
U11;HQ;19.Armee
U11;HQ;20.Armee
 

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there sould be more marine options. the USA used Marines quite well in there Imperial Conquests pre-WWI and with the Marine Brigades in WWI.
 

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Der Mann said:
there sould be more marine options. the USA used Marines quite well in there Imperial Conquests pre-WWI and with the Marine Brigades in WWI.
Are these marines really marines that are specially trained and equipped to storm and hold a beachhead, or would they be better off as guards?
 

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Are these marines really marines that are specially trained and equipped to storm and hold a beachhead, or would they be better off as guards?
Many of these Marine-troops were not very specially trained. For the germans I can say the following: They were under command of the navy. They wear marine uniforms, but they are not comparable to the modern marines...
 

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Exactly. 'Marines' before the 1920s basically meant soldiers carried on board ships to carry out boarding actions and guard the Captain's cabin. The US Marine Corps pre-WW1 was, in terms of this mod, Light Infantry. (The unit that served at Belleau Wood could be considered Assault instead, since it had a full complement of artillery). The British and German Navy/Marine divisions in WW1 were just normal (Reserve) infantry, recruited from people who originally joined the Navy but got sent into the trenches instead.

It wasn't until the interwar period that the Americans and Japanese started experimenting with purpose-made landing craft and Marine/SNLF units that were specifically trained for amphibious landing operations - and it's only this sort of unit that HoI2 classes as Marines.
 

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The British Armoured Car models have been bothering me and so I checked the latest models.csv

BRIG_MODEL_ENG_10_0;Ford Model T;;;;;;;;;;x
BRIG_MODEL_ENG_10_1;Lanchester armoured car;;;;;;;;;;x
BRIG_MODEL_ENG_10_2;Austin armoured car;;;;;;;;;;x
BRIG_MODEL_ENG_10_3;Rolls-Royce armoured car;;;;;;;;;;x

I didn't think the British ever had an armoured Model T, equally I thought the Austin, while British built, only deployed by the Russians (except a few 1918 models which obviously weren't delivered to post-revolutionary Russia). And weren't armoured Rolls Royces in service from 1914 while the first Lanchesters not in service until early 1915?

BRIG_MODEL_RUS_10_2;"Putilov ""Austin"" armored car";;;;;;;;;;x
BRIG_MODEL_RUS_10_3;Austin-Putilov armored car;;;;;;;;;;x

Just looks odd really, all those quote marks all over the place. And surely the Russians could spell, where's the 'u' got to?

MODEL_BEL_13_0;Royal Aircraft Factory B.E.2c;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_ENG_16_1;B.E.2c;;;;;;;;;;x

Not an expert on this but again that looks like a mistake, if only because the names should be synchronised. Also as they went up to the B.E.2f surely there's a sub type more suitable for one or other country?


Slightly pedantic perhaps but someone's got to do it.
 

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And weren't armoured Rolls Royces in service from 1914 while the first Lanchesters not in service until early 1915?
yes you are right about that. they had the armored RR cars when the war started.
 

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El Pip said:
MODEL_BEL_13_0;Royal Aircraft Factory B.E.2c;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_ENG_16_1;B.E.2c;;;;;;;;;;x

Not an expert on this but again that looks like a mistake, if only because the names should be synchronised. Also as they went up to the B.E.2f surely there's a sub type more suitable for one or other country?
The model used by the Belgians was the BE.2c. As for the British, the BE.2c was likewise the first version to be armed and the first version to be built in large numbers. They did go on to make more of the BE.2e variant, but by that time the aircraft was relegated to observation and training missions; it was no longer considered a front-line machine. So I think 'c' is best for both.

I've got no problems with making the names the same, though, either including or excluding the manufacturer's name (whichever best matches the other aircraft in the file).
 

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El Pip said:
I didn't think the British ever had an armoured Model T
Look here (upper right of the British AFVs) it's true that very few served with the British Army and that they were made in 1915, however, this car was too bad for 1915 IMO, so i assigned it the first car model because i haven't found any armoured car made in 1912 and used in the war by the british.

El Pip said:
I thought the Austin, while British built, only deployed by the Russians (except a few 1918 models which obviously weren't delivered to post-revolutionary Russia). And weren't armoured Rolls Royces in service from 1914 while the first Lanchesters not in service until early 1915?
Same as above, due to the fact that the majority of the armoured cars were made betwen 1915 and 1917 i had to order them according to their quality, not by the year, so i took the worst armoured car wich served in the british army during the WWI (Ford Model T) and i assigned it the first model (lower bonuses to the attached division) and took the best armoured car (Rolls-Royce armoured car) and assigned it the last model (higher bonuses to the attached division).

El Pip said:
Just looks odd really, all those quote marks all over the place. And surely the Russians could spell, where's the 'u' got to?

Well that was just because the same web as aboveconfused me because in the Russian AFVs they have an article called Austin-Putilov Armoured Car and another one called Putilov "Austin" Armoured Car. I did not realize that the first referred to the armoured car itself, and the second one referred to one modelism kit and then i thought that the one was an improved version of the other.
It was my fault, sorry.
Could you post your suggestions for the British and Russian armoured cars supported (when possible) by a web please?

Oh BTW i read that there have been many complains about the German tanks, what do you think about leaving them as this?:

Code:
BRIG_MODEL_GER_8_0;Beutepanzerwagen IV;;;;;;;;;;x
BRIG_MODEL_GER_8_1;Beutepanzerwagen V;;;;;;;;;;x
BRIG_MODEL_GER_8_2;Sturmpanzerwagen A7V;;;;;;;;;;x
BRIG_MODEL_GER_8_3;Großtraktor I;;;;;;;;;;x
 
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