United Kingdom?

[unmerged(48663)]

EU2 does have events for the creation of the UK, right?

 

[Lurken]

Yes, atleast I think there is, having to access to the event files, or have played England, I have read reports about getting the chance to create UK..

 

[Thistletooth]

Well, sort of.

#The Act of Union#
event = {

id = 3037
trigger = {
OR = {
vassal = { country = ENG country = SCO }
AND = {
owned = { province = 238 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 239 data = -1 }
NOT = { exists = SCO }
}
}
}
random = no
country = ENG
name = "EVENTNAME3037"
desc = "EVENTHIST3037"
style = 4

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1700 }
offset = 10
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1820 }

action_a ={ #We are Great Britain#
name = "ACTIONNAME3037A"
command = { type = flag which = 6 }
command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 1 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = addcore which = 236 }
command = { type = addcore which = 237 }
command = { type = addcore which = 238 }
command = { type = addcore which = 239 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 237 value = anglosaxon }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 238 value = anglosaxon }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 239 value = anglosaxon }
}
}

This'll get you the Union Jack and the cores, but that's about it. You'll still be "England", but really, this should be close enough.

EDIT: In layman's terms, you'll need to have vassalated Scotland or own Lothian and Strathclyde with Scotland having been annexed, all between 1700-1820, to trigger this event.

 

[unmerged(48663)]

So I have to have lain a whoopdown on Scotland first? Seems fair. What about Ireland?

 

[Thistletooth]

So I have to have lain a whoopdown on Scotland first? Seems fair. What about Ireland?

They have absolutely nothing to do with you getting the flag or taking Scotland, though you might want/have to get your hands on Ulster at some point if you want it to go anglosaxon. The rest of the island will probably remain gaelic/celtic, at least in vanilla. EEP will let you convert the four other Irish provinces anglosaxon if you choose an ahistorical PM.

 

[unmerged(48663)]

Many thanks. I'm getting whooped in the Hundred Years War as England, and was hoping that the historical route was open. Mucho gracias.

 

[kevusher]

Many thanks. I'm getting whooped in the Hundred Years War as England, and was hoping that the historical route was open. Mucho gracias.

Any chance of it happening ahistorically - Scotland forcing england to become a gaelic UK??? I too am very bad at England in HYW and wouldn't mind a slightly different challenge.

 

[unmerged(36763)]

I played an Age of Exploration campaign as England and created UK/Great Britain. I dunno if I have the patience to play a CG.

 

[Ayeshteni]

Any chance of it happening ahistorically - Scotland forcing england to become a gaelic UK??? I too am very bad at England in HYW and wouldn't mind a slightly different challenge.

that would be nice, but no. There are no events for such in vanilla GC. You could of course flex your creative muscles and create your own events to do so.

Ayeshteni

 

[Thistletooth]

Any chance of it happening ahistorically - Scotland forcing england to become a gaelic UK??? I too am very bad at England in HYW and wouldn't mind a slightly different challenge.

That would be very, very unlikely, if for no other reason than that England had a much higher population than Scotland. Scotland only "Anglicized" because of somewhat similar/compatible religions (reason #1 why Ireland was a lot harder), and because the Scottish MPs were willing to join the English Parliament so they could take advantage of England's greater wealth. I don't know how it could have gone the other way around.

But if it did, I think it would go a little sum'n like this:

#The Act of Union#
event = {

id = 3037 #Needs to be changed
trigger = {
OR = {
vassal = { country = SCO country = ENG }
AND = {
owned = { province = 246 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 247 data = -1 }
NOT = { exists = ENG }
}
}
}
random = no
country = SCO
name = "EVENTNAME3037"
desc = "EVENTHIST3037"
style = 4

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1700 }
offset = 10
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1820 }

action_a ={ #We are Great Britain! Now Let's Get Pissed!!!#
name = "ACTIONNAME3037A"
command = { type = flag which = 6 }
command = { type = inherit which = ENG }
command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 1 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = addcore which = 240 }
command = { type = addcore which = 241 }
command = { type = addcore which = 242 }
command = { type = addcore which = 243 }
command = { type = addcore which = 244 }
command = { type = addcore which = 245 }
command = { type = addcore which = 246 }
command = { type = addcore which = 247 }
command = { type = addcore which = 248 }
command = { type = addcore which = 249 }
command = { type = addcore which = 250 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 240 value = gaelic }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 241 value = gaelic }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 242 value = gaelic }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 243 value = gaelic }
}
}

 

[unmerged(47118)]

I've played twice with England (a GC and an exploration age) and I became UK in both. You need to conquer Scotland, Wales and Ireland. Then wait until the Union Jack event triggers. (1700s. I think). You change your flag, but is there something else???

 

[unmerged(48663)]

I've played twice with England (a GC and an exploration age) and I became UK in both. You need to conquer Scotland, Wales and Ireland. Then wait until the Union Jack event triggers. (1700s. I think). You change your flag, but is there something else???

Cores, as I understand it.

 

[Reveilled]

There were also some more detailed Act of Union events that were being worked on for the AGCEEP that were never submitted. IIRC, the sequence began with the formation of the Company of Scotland, and then went through the Darien venture, its failure, the acts of Settlement and Security and finally the Act of Union, in which England would inherit Scotland.

All things considered, it is rather strange that the original event doesn't include an inherit command, since the Act of Union is pretty much the textbook example of a diplomatic annexation.

 

[unmerged(10426)]

That would be very, very unlikely, if for no other reason than that England had a much higher population than Scotland.

Yeah, but the game is ahistorical, by it's nature. If Scotland, in the game, controls everything north of Birmingham, then a historical act of union is a nonsense.

And I agree with Reveilled, the lack of an annexation in the event if bizzare.

 

[Thistletooth]

Yeah, but the game is ahistorical, by it's nature. If Scotland, in the game, controls everything north of Birmingham, then a historical act of union is a nonsense.

Well, that's OK, considering that England must own Lothian or Strathclyde to fire the event. And even if Scotland owned the northern counties, if they are vassalated to England, their ownership would be less than absolute, and the northern counties could abstractly be considered still in England.

And I agree with Reveilled, the lack of an annexation in the event if bizzare.

Agreed, of course.