Hm, that's quite interesting idea, but Union of Kalmar is not vikings anymore. Union is close to RL Sweden and Denmark.
?Incompetent said:I've seen 'secedeprovince' wipe out a country - watch what happens in vanilla when Burgundy has lost all its Low Countries holdings by the time Austria's supposed to inherit. So there shouldn't be a problem there.
Aberration could use a new map..Incompetent said:One problem we do have, though, is that Schleswig and Holstein together only get 1 province on the standard map. By the sounds of it Kalmar inherits Schleswig, while Hanseatic interests are further south in Holstein (which is in the HRE, while Schleswig isn't). We could finesse this by saying the Duke (?) of Schleswig has also inherited Holstein, or if Kalmar and the Hansa come to an agreement we could describe a codominion, as happened to the region several times in its history. It would make sense for instance for Kalmar to take over, but respect the freedom of any Hansestädte in the area (represented maybe by transferring some taxvalue from Holstein to the Hanseatic capital). Borders were a lot more vague in the 15th century, and overlapping sovereignty like this was common, though of course it could lead to further problems if one side failed to respect their agreements. Second Schleswig-Holstein crisis anyone?
An even that converts it to Scandinavian and if UoK loses Holstien after it the province shoudl go back to german.Incompetent said:There's also the question of culture for Holstein province. Historically Schleswig would be majority Danish at this point, while Holstein would be majority German. So under a codominion with nominal Kalmar rule, it ought to be scandinavian, while if the Hansa get to keep it they should definitely manage to Hansify it.
I don't think the UoK would've supported piracy in that area. the UoK had a decent navy (the royal Danish one). But the Hansa and Brittany would never allow it.Calipah said:I was wondering - does the Union have a strong naval tradition?that is- similar to the Vikings?Ive always wondered if it was possible for the Kalmar Union to support piracy down the coasts of France to Iberia like the Vikings did.
Freiksenet1987 said:Maybe it would be more realistic if Hansa inherits Holstein and Kalmar's Jutland have a tax boost? Because Holstein itself is bigger than Slesvig. Slesvig is simulated by both Jutland south and Holstein North, I think.
Freiksenet1987 said:Agreed. I think even without events, cores provokes AI well enough. But events would be even greater.
This all happens if KAL does not choose pro-HSA monarch.
event = {
id = 201503
trigger = {
owned = { province = 307 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 309 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 251 data = -1 }
}
random = no
country = KAL
name = "The Sund Dues"
[COLOR=YELLOW]desc = "The Sound Due ('Øresundstolden') was introduced by King Erik in 1421. All ships passing through the Sound were forced to anchor off Helsingør and pay dues to the Union of Kalmar. Ships that refused to pay was sunken by cannons in both Helsingør and Helsingborg, where large fortresses were built. To avoid attempts to come through without paying, tolls were collected in the Great Belt ('Storebælt') and the Little Belt ('Lillebælt') as well. The due was enourmous, providing a steady stream of income to the Union, and it's impact on politics were just as large as on economy. The Union king often decided different levels of tariffs for the various nationalities of the ships passing through. Hanseatic mercants were often particularly targeted, which was an important contributing factor to the bitter rivalry between the Hansa and the Union."[/COLOR]
style = 1
date = { day = 3 month = january year = 1421 }
offset = 360
action_a ={ # Impose the Sund Dues
name = "We control the sounds, let us have our due"
command = { type = domestic which = MERCANTILISM value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = LAND value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 307 value = 4 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 251 value = 2 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 309 value = 2 }
command = { type = fortress which = 307 value = 1 }
[COLOR=YELLOW]command = { type = fortress which = 251 value = 1 }[/COLOR]
command = { type = treasury value = -100 }
command = { type = trade value = -500 }
command = { type = relation which = HSA value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = POM value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = FIN value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = LAT value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = BUR value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = SCO value = -25 }
}
action_b ={ # Let trade flow freely
name = "Try to keep Skanör competitive without resorting to overt coercion"
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = domestic which = MERCANTILISM value = -1 }
command = { type = cash value = -100 }
command = { type = trade value = 200 }
command = { type = infra value = 200 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 307 value = 1 } #improved harbours for Skane
command = { type = relation which = HSA value = 20 }
command = { type = relation which = POM value = 20 }
command = { type = relation which = FIN value = 20 }
command = { type = relation which = LAT value = 20 }
command = { type = relation which = BUR value = 20 }
command = { type = relation which = SCO value = 10 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 442202 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 442203 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 442210 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 442207 }
}
}
event = {
id = 201582
trigger = { event = 442203 }
random = no
country = KAL
name = "The Sund Crisis "
desc = "Eldermann Einhafen of the Hanseatic League threatens military action if we do not reduce the essential tolls we charge at the SundSund."
date = { day = 1 month = march year = 1434 }
offset = 60
deathdate = { day = 1 month = march year = 1441 }
action_a ={ #Leads to HSA event 442205
name = "We are incensed at the arrogant Hanseatic threats, and refuse to back down."
command = { type = relation which = HSA value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = FIN value = -10 }
command = { type = relation which = LAT value = -10 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 442204 }
}
action_b ={ #Leads to HSA event 442204
name = "Offer to reduce the tolls, and share the spoils of trade."
[COLOR=YELLOW]command = { type = vp value = -25 }[/COLOR]
command = { type = sleepevent which = 442205 }
}
}
event = {
id = 201584
trigger = {
OR = {
event = 442204
event = 442205
}
NOT = { war = { country = HSA country = KAL }}
owned = { province = 307 data = HSA }
}
random = no
country = KAL
name = "The end of the Sund Crisis "
desc = "We have been defeated by the Hanseatic League and the king has been forced into an embarrasing agreement to acknowledge Hanseatic rights to the Sund."
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1442 }
offset = 120
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1460 }
action_a = {
name = "We have lost control of the Sund"
command = { type = vp value = -200 }
command = { type = DIP which = -2 value = 120 }
[COLOR=YELLOW]command = { type = MIL which = -4 value = 120 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 251 value = -2 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 309 value = -2 }[/COLOR]
[COLOR=RED]command = { type = removecore which = 307 }[/COLOR]
}
}
[COLOR=YELLOW]# An Uprising in Bergslagen
event = {
id = 502000
trigger = {
atwar = yes
owned = { province = 257 data = KAL }
}
random = yes
country = KAL
name = "The Bergslagen uprisings"
desc = "The miners of Bergslagen became very rebellious as soon as their trade with metals were disturbed. M'lord, it looks like we might face a new rebellion."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1434 }
offset = 300
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1435 }
action_a ={
name = "Crush every last of them!"
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 1 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 257 value = 4 }
command = { type = revolt which = 257 }
command = { type = revolt which = 257 }
command = { type = revolt which = 257 }
}
action_b ={ # Crush them - totally.
name = "Repay their losses."
command = { type = treasury value = -150 }
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = -1 }
}
}[/COLOR]
SunZyl said:As you might have guessed, I won't keep working on this.
A while ago, I completely lost my interest in EUII (after a long delay anyway). Now with EUIII coming I probably continue with the re-discovered EUII for long.
So... I just wanted to check in and tell you and also apologize for this. If there's still interest in an EUIII version I might be able to help if it's desired, but I won't promise anything.