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Doesn't Brandenburg start under a PU in 1399? Is this not a major obstacle, or are there better start dates?

It isn't a major obstacle. If you insult Luxemburg until your relations are below 0, you will be free as soon as their monarch dies. You should be out of the union rather quickly.

In my opinion, unions should be harder for humans to break.
 

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It isn't a major obstacle. If you insult Luxemburg until your relations are below 0, you will be free as soon as their monarch dies. You should be out of the union rather quickly.

In my opinion, unions should be harder for humans to break.

Also, Burgundy has a Conquer Luxemburg mission that might help you out.

Remember to cancel your alliance with Luxemburg on day 1, so that you don't get dragged into that war with Burgundy :)
 

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It's way easier to inherit Brandenburg as Bohemia than start as Brandenburg and miss the early PU opportunities on other required provinces.
 

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You can switch cultures fairly easily after you start coring required provinces. This thread is for "quickly" and for Germany - do you suggest Brandenburg can do it faster than Bohemia?
 

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With +1 base tax everywhere and cores on whole German region quick German unification can be really powerful allowing you to blitz the map and get to behemoth sizes very soon.

Waiting for Land 30 as Prussia will give you some unnecessary discipline (good luck losing a war against AI when you are Germany...) doesn't seem worth it compared to the sheer size of unified German cores. I say if you PU everyone you can PU in the beginning, PU Brandenburg 5-10 years later and wait 50 for Altmark and Franken to core you can have Germany by 1500 with some luck. That's 150 years before Land 30.

Of course once you do it there's no competition left so game over out of boredom.
 

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The earliest I've had the Germany decision available was 1503 as TO and I later regretted waiting for Prussian military reforms. When your in that much of a dominate position it the reforms don't really matter better off getting the bonuses of Germany for 150 years.
 

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I don't see why Prussian military reforms can't be a general decision anyway. Make it so the country has to have Military Drill, 90% Army Tradition, and a Mil 8 ruler as well as reaching Land tech 30.

Of course that takes away the best thing about being Prussia next to the sassy name and macho gray color.
 
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Why would a country like Yemen have access to Prussian military reforms? Or even Portugal?

Why can a country not reform its military and get more 'discipline'? It doesn't have to be called "Prussian." And if you are going to say that they get it because they did it historically, well then I point you to the strange screenshots thread and ask what is historical about EU3?
 

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The empires aren't historical but the decisions are. The decisions aren't particularly balanced, though.

A general Military Reform option should be available, though, to countries with high tradition and some military focus (like having Grand Army + Military Drill + Battlefield Commissions or something), as you suggest.
 

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The empires aren't historical but the decisions are. The decisions aren't particularly balanced, though.

A general Military Reform option should be available, though, to countries with high tradition and some military focus (like having Grand Army + Military Drill + Battlefield Commissions or something), as you suggest.

I completely agree. I like that there are decisions that give individual countries their historical flavor, and wish more countries had them. But I also would like to see more general decisions that drive your nation in a particular direction, be it military or economic. Those are fun.
 

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Also, Burgundy has a Conquer Luxemburg mission that might help you out.

Another approach is to use a 1399 slider move towards centralization and it might spawn a pretender rebel. At that point, disband your army or set its upkeep to zero and move it away from the capital. You will be free in no time, with the pretender rebel as your new king. IRRC, there is a 1/3rd chance of this happening, spawning peasant rebels or a stability decrease. Restart if it doesn't work. You lose only a single day. Waiting for the Luxy king to die can take a month or 30 years.
 

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The empires aren't historical but the decisions are. The decisions aren't particularly balanced, though.

A general Military Reform option should be available, though, to countries with high tradition and some military focus (like having Grand Army + Military Drill + Battlefield Commissions or something), as you suggest.

Also, perhaps with some slider requirements for land and quality? Land and Quality both at least 3?
 

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I found Hansa to be the easiest nation to form Germany as. You've got the money so just vassalise all you can and conquer/force annex the provinces you need.

Just take half of the provinces you need, hunker down and take the infamy on the chin (you can do this without going over the limit) then take the other half and enjoy those cores.