Undoxumented new cool feature with variables.

[ngppgn]

I think this has gone a bit under the hood, so I'll post here so other modders notice:

You can use a three-way variable manipulation, like this:

change_variable = {
  which = some_var
  which = other_var
  which = ROOT
}

This adds the value of ROOT's other_var to the value of the xurrent scope's some_var. ROOT can be replaced by any valid RHS. The arguments must be in this order. It works or should work with all varible commands and conditions.

Before this was impossible without using other variables as helpers.

 

[Zarathustra_the]

It was possible before, you just need a single intermediary variable. That said, It may not be working properly with the broken variables.

 

[ngppgn]

It was possible before, you just need a single intermediary variable. That said, It may not be working properly with the broken variables.

That's what I meant with "before this was impossible without using other variables as helpers". Also with triggers, it was absolutely impossible. You can now do this in a targeted_decision for example (when the bug is fixed):

potential = {
  check_variable = {
    which = some_var
    which = other_var
    which = FROM
  }
}

This was absolutely impossible to do before, since you cannot set or change a helper variable in a potential block.

 

[Zarathustra_the]

You can't change a variable in a potential block though? Potential blocks look for conditionals. Or did they change something?

 

[blackninja9939]

Pretty sure this was possible before to use a secondary scope, it just never was used in vanilla or documented much as far as I am aware.
Also is this thread not better placed in the general user mod section...?

 

[ngppgn]

You can't change a variable in a potential block though? Potential blocks look for conditionals. Or did they change something?

I meant check_variable rather than change_variable, my bad

Edited accordingly.

 

[Zarathustra_the]

I meant check_variable rather than change_variable, my bad

Edited accordingly.

Oh in that case it might be interesting. That said, you could do it within an AND block, so it is no new functionality, merely more user friendly

 

[Sigebryht]

What can this be used for?

 

[blackninja9939]

You can change/check character A's variable X based on character B's value of variable Y, can be used to some more complex calculations when you need to determine something like say amount of votes a character has vs the amount of votes another character has.
Or changing someone's score based off of the attributes of someone else's variable in something.

 

[Sigebryht]

I don't understand what is a variable, I am not a IT guy, I am just a hobby modder. piety, traits, number of provinces? how can that be used, factions/intreague never seems to do anything in this game, you always find out a way to stay on top of things and just keep at it, in the worst scenario you have easily winnable civil wars.

 

[blackninja9939]

I don't understand what is a variable, I am not a IT guy, I am just a hobby modder. piety, traits, number of provinces? how can that be used, factions/intreague never seems to do anything in this game, you always find out a way to stay on top of things and just keep at it, in the worst scenario you have easily winnable civil wars.

A variable in ck2 terms can be literally anything, it is just a custom named thing stored on a character which takes a value. Nothing really to do with piety etc.
Factions and intrigue do quite a lot in the game to be honest.
As I said in my previous post this thread is not specifically about AGOT, it is just a modding feature.

 

[Sigebryht]

A variable in ck2 terms can be literally anything, it is just a custom named thing stored on a character which takes a value. Nothing really to do with piety etc.
Factions and intrigue do quite a lot in the game to be honest.
As I said in my previous post this thread is not specifically about AGOT, it is just a modding feature.

saying that it can be anything but not piety is not clear

 

[ngppgn]

saying that it can be anything but not piety is not clear

Variables are a way to store a number associated eith a name on a character, tirle or province, which is not tied to any actual game stat. For example, I could use a variable to model a province's population. Variables can be done basic math with (+,-,*,/,=,<,<,<=,<) between variables and numbers, two variables of the same entity, or two variables with the same name in different entities.

The new feature means that now we can directly operate with two variables in different objects and different names.

Note that the operations are not done with the math signs but with ck2script commands and conditions.

 

[blackninja9939]

I mean it is quite clear, you can store literally any value into a custom named variable tied to characters, titles, provinces or globally.
As opposed to piety which is a hardcoded thing with a value stored per character in their life data.

 

[RelVleDy]

With all due respect, a variable is basic programming knowledge. It is what it is. Its so basic, its not even specific to CKII. Its like explaining the definition of color. It cant be any clearer than experiencing it for yourself.

 

[ngppgn]

Ok, I feel dumb. This should be in the overarching modding forum and not in the agot subforum -I haven't noticed until now somehow. How can that be fixed?

 

[blackninja9939]

Ok, I feel dumb. This should be in the overarching modding forum and not in the agot subforum -I haven't noticed until now somehow. How can that be fixed?

Just report the thread with the reason move to general user mod forums, I did as well if it helps

 

[Letar]

Just report the thread with the reason move to general user mod forums, I did as well if it helps

Yep, it helped this time

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