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小島から
山の頂上まで
蘭学来る
Kojima kara
Yama no chuujou made
Rangaku kuru
From the small island
To the summit of the mountain
Rangaku comes
狂気の顔
オランダ人の仮面
かけられる
Kyouki no kao
Orandajin no kamen
Kakerareru
The face of madness
Can wear the mask
Of a Dutchman
- 松方祐介、埼玉の大名
- Matsukata Yusuke, Daimyo of Satsuma
Kyoto Protocols: Aye
Tenpou 7 Budget: Aye
[Provincial Daimyo]
[Saitama]
山の頂上まで
蘭学来る
Kojima kara
Yama no chuujou made
Rangaku kuru
From the small island
To the summit of the mountain
Rangaku comes
狂気の顔
オランダ人の仮面
かけられる
Kyouki no kao
Orandajin no kamen
Kakerareru
The face of madness
Can wear the mask
Of a Dutchman
- 松方祐介、埼玉の大名
- Matsukata Yusuke, Daimyo of Satsuma
Kyoto Protocols: Aye
Tenpou 7 Budget: Aye
[Provincial Daimyo]
[Saitama]
((I know the Emperor is just a puppet of the Shogun, and he doesn't have any real political power. However, it's supposed Asahi doesn't know it, and thinks the Emperor is the supreme leader of Nippon, with control over everything. Also, Asahi doesn't know the real difference between a republic and a democracy. He only wants a Nippon were everyone is able to elect his leader, peasents, middle class and rich class alike, and to open our borders, modernize and... then conquer the world. Yes, that's it. Asahi just want a democracy because that way the traditional daimyo who don't want to field armies or attack countries will be out, and once it happens he will become a general and then conquer the neighborhood nations. Asahi is in reality a huge hypocrite. Have the daimyo agreed to conquer and attack he would have been against Seita.
For those who weren't here, there's a quick resume: Daimyos want to approve laws to continue with Japan isoation and traditionalism. However, a samurai, Seita opposed them. He's going to be executed. Asahi, another samurai agreed with him, tought he doesn't really like Seita. Asahi is going to be executed too. Now there's some discussion IC between samurai, daimyo and the ronnin -Seita, for now-
Finally, and this line addressed to Naxhi-sama, does that mean I'm a exilied shogun too?))
Kyoto Protocols: No
Treasury Plan: Yes
[Regional Daimyo]
[Chogoku]
((Just got in))
Treasury Plan: Yes
[Regional Daimyo]
[Chogoku]
((Just got in))
Voting closed
Final Tally:
Kyoto Protocol: With Samurai Bonuses (4 Yes/12.5 No/11 Abstain)
Failed
Budget: With Samurai Bonuses (18.5 Yes/9 No/0 Abstain)
Passed
Final Tally:
Kyoto Protocol: With Samurai Bonuses (4 Yes/12.5 No/11 Abstain)
Failed
Budget: With Samurai Bonuses (18.5 Yes/9 No/0 Abstain)
Passed
Though Seita never said he was against Kyoto Protocols, it seems his actions have influyed on the votation somehow. Various daimyo seem to be insecure, and it looks like they want to remain powerful. It's likely they want it to have control over their servants, and evade events like Seita's cards from happening again. Wheter that's true or not, I don't know. But its bad for my porpouses, because that way Japan army will never be as powerful as it need to be.
((Also, Naxhi-sama, Am I exiled too?))
((Also, Naxhi-sama, Am I exiled too?))
Satake (1836-1838): A Dull Start
The Daimyo Council and the Roju met in 1836 to discuss events relating to them around Japan. They came to discuss the isolationist policy, Nanban trade, and Shogun-Imperial relations. Seven Daimyo were selected to be on the Roju, and the Roju then selected Daimyo Satake of Sendai to lead them as Head Elder. Thus, Daimyo Satake would advise the Shogun for a time, and the Shogun would heed the Head Elder's words. To start things off, the Daimyo Council had to discuss two Samurai in Japan, Asahi Daika and Tarou Seita, two Samurai who had the tenacity to discuss not only opening up Japan and ending the isolation, but denouncing the Shogun and the Emperor himself. The Shogun immediately called for their arrest. Seita would flee Japan, escaping on a boat he and his family built to journey across the ocean into Korea, in which they then traveled into China. Daika would not be so lucky. He would be captured by Shogunate secret police and dragged to court in Edo, in which he has to plea his case in front of a court. It is unknown if the Shogun will execute him.
The Shogun though, had other problems. His lifestyle, and that of events that have happened before his regime, caught the eye of the Daimyo Council and the Roju. Soon, the Council started to call for the removal of Shogun Tokugawa Ienari. First the spirits, then the people, now his fellow lords, all abandoning him. Ienari though tried as hard as possible to retain his Shogunate, but to no avail. He would step down in 1837, and his second son Tokugawa Ieyoshi would step in to assume the Shogunate. Ienari would not be gone however, and Ienari would guide his son in his decisions, meaning that Ienari still held a lot of influence in the Shogunate.
(Tokugawa Ieyoshi, the 12th Tokugawa Shogun)
(A Boat of the fleet)
(Kobe Gold)
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Player Actions: I will give you all two days to propose things and whatnot. Art and Red are Ronin now, Art being exiled and Red in prison. Red can IC his defense, and the Shogun will decide whether or not he lives or dies.
This is what happens when we try to engage the Nanban with trade and ships- the ships deteriorate and the emperor loses money! The whole project has proved to be a fiasco and disgrace to Nippon.
Those who follow the traditions of Nippon are rewarded. The gold found in Kobe was no accident; it was a reward for our city's devotion to Nippon's traditions and the Emperor.
-Daimyo Matsui Hideki of Kobe
Those who follow the traditions of Nippon are rewarded. The gold found in Kobe was no accident; it was a reward for our city's devotion to Nippon's traditions and the Emperor.
-Daimyo Matsui Hideki of Kobe
((Am I in prision? Damm. I was going to say I fleed to Ecuador and became a farmer of bananas... Sigh... I think I will try to survive, but chances are I will be executed))
So, this is how things ended for me... I will gladly die for my ideals. You are still thinking Nanban are bad. However ships and trade failed because we didn't have the resources. What didn't we have them? Because our land isn't enough, and we should have traded for resources. China and Korea are good choices. I hate those Brits, the Americans, those French... They're barbarians, and I think we shouldn't try to be diplomatic with them. However, as I said before, I think we should learn of their example.
Will the Shogun have mercy for me? I think he won't. I blasfemed against our Emperor, though I was only saying he's no god in political deals, but in spiritual ones. I said we should become a democracy, a republic or whatever. I just want a better Japan. A better, stronger, militaristic and democratic Japan, and I still want that. I won't retract. That would be against my ideals. But I want to live. My dream is still not fullfilled. I can't do anything. Also, and finally, don't you think that exiling me, letting me to see how Japan continues traditionalist and isolating itself, would be a worse punishment? Though I'm an atheist, I'm prating right now. I don't really want to live because life is good, I want to live to fullfil my dreams. I don't care about myself, nor about someone else. I don't have family, and my only living family is death for me. So, I'm begging for clemency. If the Shogun decided to fullfil my wish, I won't interfere again. I still want a better Japan, but that can wait.
So, this is how things ended for me... I will gladly die for my ideals. You are still thinking Nanban are bad. However ships and trade failed because we didn't have the resources. What didn't we have them? Because our land isn't enough, and we should have traded for resources. China and Korea are good choices. I hate those Brits, the Americans, those French... They're barbarians, and I think we shouldn't try to be diplomatic with them. However, as I said before, I think we should learn of their example.
Will the Shogun have mercy for me? I think he won't. I blasfemed against our Emperor, though I was only saying he's no god in political deals, but in spiritual ones. I said we should become a democracy, a republic or whatever. I just want a better Japan. A better, stronger, militaristic and democratic Japan, and I still want that. I won't retract. That would be against my ideals. But I want to live. My dream is still not fullfilled. I can't do anything. Also, and finally, don't you think that exiling me, letting me to see how Japan continues traditionalist and isolating itself, would be a worse punishment? Though I'm an atheist, I'm prating right now. I don't really want to live because life is good, I want to live to fullfil my dreams. I don't care about myself, nor about someone else. I don't have family, and my only living family is death for me. So, I'm begging for clemency. If the Shogun decided to fullfil my wish, I won't interfere again. I still want a better Japan, but that can wait.
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((I didn't actually order the construction of any ships; I simply entered into fruitless negotiations with other daimyo as to whether or not we should build ships.))
My friends, I know that maybe isn't the time to think about those things but prevention is better than cure. The three acts that I'm going to show you aren't for our interest but for the future of our country and our sons.
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((The position of Minister for War (or whatever you wish to call it) already exists; the current Tairo simply didn't see the need in appointing one.))
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((Actually, MoW does not exist, according to Naxhi, since regional daimyo effectively execute the duties of that office within their region.))
((Actually, MoW does not exist, according to Naxhi, since regional daimyo effectively execute the duties of that office within their region.))
((Final draft of the Save the Emperor Agreement))
天皇契約を保存します
Ten'nōkeiyaku o hozonshimasu
Save the Emperor Agreement
I: The traitors Asahi Daika and Seita will be publicly executed.
~A: Any person/s, regardless of rank, found to be assisting them in any way will be executed.
~ B: Any person/s of the lower class that refuses to assist in this endavour will be executed.
II: Any person/s, regardless of rank, who is thought to be sympathetic to Seita's ideals will be arrested.
~A: If said person/s fails to prove their innocence they will be executed.
~B: If said person/s proves their innocence they will be freed and compensated.
~C: Trails will be held in Kyoto with the Emperor, or his representative, as judge.
III: The following will be classed in a political ideology know as: 共和主義 Kyōwashugi. All acts, symbols, etc. associated with said ideology will be banned.
~A: Ousting the Emperor, or claiming that he is in fact not our divine ruler
~B: Placing women in any sort of power other then over other women.
~C: Allowing Nanban to dismiss Japanese Law and do as they wish in Japan.
天皇契約を保存します
Ten'nōkeiyaku o hozonshimasu
Save the Emperor Agreement
I: The traitors Asahi Daika and Seita will be publicly executed.
~A: Any person/s, regardless of rank, found to be assisting them in any way will be executed.
~ B: Any person/s of the lower class that refuses to assist in this endavour will be executed.
II: Any person/s, regardless of rank, who is thought to be sympathetic to Seita's ideals will be arrested.
~A: If said person/s fails to prove their innocence they will be executed.
~B: If said person/s proves their innocence they will be freed and compensated.
~C: Trails will be held in Kyoto with the Emperor, or his representative, as judge.
III: The following will be classed in a political ideology know as: 共和主義 Kyōwashugi. All acts, symbols, etc. associated with said ideology will be banned.
~A: Ousting the Emperor, or claiming that he is in fact not our divine ruler
~B: Placing women in any sort of power other then over other women.
~C: Allowing Nanban to dismiss Japanese Law and do as they wish in Japan.
((It's mentioned in the OP though, or is that only for Westernised Japan?))