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Realism is good but as in every game a compromise has to be made between playability and realism.

Players will exploit the rules - the AI will not. Players will only take the provinces they need to force a peace / puppet / annex. AI tends to be less single minded.

Players will tailor research to reach specific ahistorical goals. AI tends to adopt a broad front approach to research.

I would be suprised if any competent player could not win as any one of the three main groupings after two or three games on normal. After all it is relatively easy for expert players to achieve world domination (or in Ebbesen's case world conquest) with small minor countries in EU2.

The point is - can you have fun with HoI. And the answer to that is a big YES! Play around with the scenario editor, change OOB's and leaders, change allliance groupings. The possibilities are immense.

And remember, HoI is a fun game as was EU. But there are a whole load of cool ideas (and probably many more to come from retail players) which never made it in to HoI and hopefully will make it in to HoI 2 if it ever happens. And of course there will be player mod AI upgrades a la EU2 - because however many betas there are there will be 100x more players and hence 100x more experience and hard work in improving elements of the game. The beauty of the EU series and HoI is that the game evolves as the player base grows. So - rather than complaining that US is too easy, why not start working out how you can handicap the US for an enjoyable game. Then tell us all!
 

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Err,

Why did you all speak about Britain ? Did you now this is a Commonwealth then at first sign of Britain getting on the losing side of an invasion Fleet and Queen will be redeployed to Canada.

So forget getting the fleet you will have to build one.

And forget the sealion silliness, it cant have happened AT ALL !!!

Even if the Germans have managed to destroy the RN, the RAF and found I dont know where sailors and ships to actually transport troups the other side of the channel they will ahve had to face :

6 infantry division fully equipped and with armored equipement !!! and at least 6 other are ready to be put in orde rin the following weeks.

The german plan to cross the channel in 26+ hours !!! on barges that can be sunk by a 50 cms wave ( or a Destroyer wave ). the first supply will have been avaliable 13 !!! days after the initial landing ! Overstressed LW are planned to fly escort above the fleet, sunk the RN, support the beach head, interdict UK troups movement, add some airport bombing for some measure.

All RN would have had to do is sail 20 destroyers and cruiser full blast through the invasion forces and the whole thing would have sink !! the poor survivors with no amphibious landing training at all not knowledge of the beach will have had to figth through UK tanks and MG fire ( they can probably dig them self where ever the fleet is supposed to land so creepy it was in speed ) with NO Heavy Equipement at all...

SeeLowe was an HOAX and nothing more...

Now of course with abstracted game mechanism it is possible to do it...


BTW I will love to see the state of the German divisions when they put foot on US soil after more then 20 days at sea spendt in cargo bay :))) If any manage to survive that long.
 

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Greywolf:
In SS Amerika the British government relocates to Canada. There about two dozen Free British units available.
 

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Deja view - next person who posts about Sealion please use the search function for previous threads ;)

It's been done to death!
 

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Greywolf, I'm sure a human player of HOI now would plan Sealion a bit better than Hitler. We're talking about the guy that let the British and a large part of the French army escape at Dunkirk after all. ;)

A German invasion of America would be a pain...

You thought a lot of Americans fought in WWII, you would have seen that number quadruple at the prospect of an invasion of America proper... Imagine guiding the Wehrmacht through a flood of 10 million Americans. :eek:
 

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Originally posted by Andor the Just
The Point in REALISM is even if you could land a few divisions in the USA the national guards are more then enough to beat you ( because of the mass of them) There are so many americans even if you give every 20th of them a musket rifle it would be enough:D .

You don't have to give us anything, even in '39 we had guns, guns and more guns.

Even today there are normal, everday, department stores with gun sections. Useless against tanks, of course, but tanks need supplies, and supplies don't travel in tanks ;)
 

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Small contest:

What will be the first word a german troupers will say putting his feet on USA after 3 weeks of travel contained in the bottom of a ship ?

Personnaly I bet for a 10 feet struggling walk then " URRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKK...................."