Unbearable slowdown at 80 years. (PC)

[Rev77]

Hello all,

New to the forums here, and wasn't able to find much info on this matter. A lot of articles tell me how to fix slowness issues if I have an old computer, but I have yet to find one telling me how to combat slowness on a high end machine.
I've done everything from re-imaging my device and reloading drivers to console commands but the following always happens:

Regardless of my realm size, number of family members, or amount of AI left on the map, my game will always begin to lag on high speed after approximately 80 years. I have tried playing a single county with one male heir per ruler, and even tried giving myself every single realm on the map (yes it took a while) but England, and it still slowed down after 80 years (not counting the obvious slowness generating by tech spread/etc.)

I own all DLC and typically start at the earliest possible time, though I also experienced slowness in The Old Gods after ~100 years.

If it was anything with my machine, I'd be happy to go out and buy whatever I needed to make my gaming experience better... but I'm an IT admin myself, and PCs are already life for me. All drivers and firmware are checked weekly.
Specs:
Fresh install of Windows 7 Ultimate
WD SSD harddrive
i7 Sandy in a matching Intel Extreme server mobo
32gb of the highest clocking ram I could find
Nvidia GTX790
Sound processed by Denon Receiver via optical

Is anyone out there with a similar system not having issues? You can't get much faster without dropping $30k on an SCSI super-rig. What can I do to fix my mid/late game? Or am I doomed to play the first hundred years over and over?

 

[Rev77]

Forgot to mention the version number. Current Steam. 2.2.1 SXMR with all DLC enabled.

 

[donnyb83]

Odd, it should be 2.2.1 DPOO for your checksum.

 

[AndrewT]

Yes, if that's the checksum you get when loading with NO mods active, Please try a full clean re-install:

- move any valued save games elsewhere
- "delete local content" in Steam-CK2
- manually delete all files and folders left under Steam/CK2 AND Documents/Paradox/CK2
- re-install game in Steam, run a Steam Verify when done.

 

[Rev77]

I will give that a try. I did immediately re-install the mods I'm used to playing with before testing on the fresh image. Thanks for the advice! Will post my results after testing this afternoon.

For anyone curious I was using the following mods:
- Revoke all title decisions.
- Bloodlines

*Update-
As mentioned above, my version number is now 2.2.1 DPOO. Testing is underway.

 

[Rev77]

Alright, clean install without mods... here is what I'm getting:

Playing as the kingdom of Cyprus with 4 counties and a small dynasty I began to experience significant slowdown around the year 800 (starting in the age of Charlemagne). Playing through this I still hit a performance wall in 858 where the highest speed goes from less than a second to progress through a month, to about 8 seconds on average per month. I've been in exactly 5 "wars" and all were small scale. All major empires remain relatively unchanged with the exception of Francia. The 58 year period between 800 and 858 would seem to rev up slightly, before slowing down even more than initially... I'm not sure I can attribute it to any major wars, host events, etc.... it just seems like as the years tick by the game starts to lag now.

So if it wasn't the two mods I was using causing the slowness issues... what else could it be? Please also note I have tested this issue on my wife's computer as well. Older Phenom II proc, Gigabyte board, 16gb ram, nvidia gtx760 and it's occurring there for me to. My linux machine doesn't have a proper video card so I wasn't able to test with that OS.

- Is it Nvidia related? I update my drivers weekly, and have tested with beta drivers already to no avail.
- Is it a setting of some sort? I can't imagine optimizing my game much better than it is... currently it is 1 of 3 games installed directly on my SSD with save files on there as well.
- Is it just the way the game is since Old Gods/Rajas? Is it taking you between 5-10 seconds a month on the highest speed after approximately 100 years too?

I don't recall these issues occurring much before the old gods, and only noticed limited slowdown with that DLC, but after a brief hiatus I began playing heavily again and keep running into this issue without fail every game. It makes the mid to late game very unenjoyable.

 

[AndrewT]

Please post a dxdiag.txt (you can delete everything after the end of the "Sound devices" section for brevity) and your Documents/EU4/settings.txt. From your Documents/Paradox/EU4/logs/ directory, post system.log . Open setup.log in notepad and search for 'checksum', post that line only here too please.

- Is it Nvidia related? I update my drivers weekly, and have tested with beta drivers already to no avail.

The majority of our customers have nVidia, so no.

- Is it a setting of some sort?

I don't know yet.

- Is it just the way the game is since Old Gods/Rajas? Is it taking you between 5-10 seconds a month on the highest speed after approximately 100 years too?

I personally haven't played a game past a few years for ages, but we'd know if everyone was suffering this. Feel free to upload an illustrative game somewhere and paste a link to it in here, so others can test.

 

[Rev77]

Thanks for the reply Andrew.

I'm posting the dxdiag of our slowest gaming rig that runs CKII. Whatever the issue might be will almost certainly apply to all my PCs as they are set up very similar. (All are Intel/Nvidia with one exception)

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System Information
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Time of this report: 11/28/2014, 06:17:37
Machine name: EARTH
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.140303-2144)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: INTEL_
System Model: DZ68BC__
BIOS: BIOS Date: 09/02/13 10:38:48 Ver: 04.06.04
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
Memory: 16384MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 16360MB RAM
Page File: 5126MB used, 11232MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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[Rev77]

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[Rev77]

Please note* I have tried disabling autosave completely to no avail. I just prefer to have it yearly in case of crashes.

 

[AndrewT]

Those look fine although you may as well make refreshRate=60 in settings.txt

Can I have the sstem.log please.