Unable to raise some vassal levies

[Assalander]

They have troops, they like me, the ledger confirms this, but the button to raise their "Liege levy" remains greyed. Sometimes it unlocks after some time. Is that a bug? If no what is the reason for that?

Exemple: I revoked the Kingdom of Serbia from the Doux of Thessalonika and give it to a Doux in de jure Serbia. This guys loves me now, but I can't raise his troops. Is there a sort of cooldown due to reorganization?

 

[riknap]

are you sure you don't have his levies ALREADY raised somewhere?

 

[Assalander]

I'm completely sure. And there are some others with the same issue, Doux or Counts as well (not the majority, luckily, but still that's frustrating).

No problem to raise their fleets though.

 

[Assalander]

Maybe it's a bug blocking the levy for some counties. I noticed if I revoke the Kingdom of Serbia, the Doux of Duklja that was previously King still provides no levy (well, the army tab says it should, but the button is greyed there as well as in the counties under his jurisdiction), while it works for the other Doux (Rashka), which grants ~1000. If I give the Kingdom title to the Doux of Rashka, then the whole kingdom provides only the ~1000. As if Duklja was bugged. If I also revoke the Doux of Duklja title, the levy button is still greyed out in both counties.

I can't see what else than a bug this might be. Am I the only one in this situation? Should I report in the bug forum?

 

[Yxklyx]

Maybe it's a bug blocking the levy for some counties. I noticed if I revoke the Kingdom of Serbia, the Doux of Duklja that was previously King still provides no levy (well, the army tab says it should, but the button is greyed there as well as in the counties under his jurisdiction), while it works for the other Doux (Rashka), which grants ~1000. If I give the Kingdom title to the Doux of Rashka, then the whole kingdom provides only the ~1000. As if Duklja was bugged. If I also revoke the Doux of Duklja title, the levy button is still greyed out in both counties.

I can't see what else than a bug this might be. Am I the only one in this situation? Should I report in the bug forum?

I'm seeing the same thing with the Prince-Bishopric of Duklja. I can occasionally get levies but most of the time - hovering over the button says nothing's there to levy.

 

[Assalander]

Another detail is that in the Army Tab, their troops appear non-full (as if they had suffered casualties), while they haven't been raised for ages and they appear full in the graphical displays of the holdings.

 

[whosthebestcop]

i've noticed as well but wasn't able to confirm the exact reason why

 

[Assalander]

Same problem with the county of Theodosia. If I kill the dude, it still doesn't work. But if I revoke the title, then give it to someone else, it does "unlock" the levies. But if I give the county back to the same dude, it is locked again!

I've also tried revoking the county and giving him another one. The levy of the new one becomes locked. So is that a per vassal (or family) thing?

 

[unmerged(552011)]

I have that problem too.

 

[NosgothKingdom]

Are they in civil war and someone occupies a holding of their? I've had this problem sometimes and tough I didn't pay too much attention to it, I reckon there were times they were at civil war and provinces all around were occupied. But maybe it was just a coincidence.

Or maybe because he has negative opinion of you (and ain't in your de jure area, so your crown authority won't affect him theoretically).


One thing I've noticed since the last patch is that now I raise my vassal's army and their provinces still show full levies around. So if someone attacks them, it's still hard to siege it due to it being full. I find it rather odd and as far as I can tell it happens everytime. It makes quite hard taking any territory from another ruler which ain't his demesne, since he'll raise his vassal's levies and it'll still be a pain in the ass to siege it full.

I've been wondering whether it was on purpose.

 

[Yxklyx]

Are they in civil war and someone occupies a holding of their? I've had this problem sometimes and tough I didn't pay too much attention to it, I reckon there were times they were at civil war and provinces all around were occupied. But maybe it was just a coincidence.

Or maybe because he has negative opinion of you (and ain't in your de jure area, so your crown authority won't affect him theoretically).


One thing I've noticed since the last patch is that now I raise my vassal's army and their provinces still show full levies around. So if someone attacks them, it's still hard to siege it due to it being full. I find it rather odd and as far as I can tell it happens everytime. It makes quite hard taking any territory from another ruler which ain't his demesne, since he'll raise his vassal's levies and it'll still be a pain in the ass to siege it full.

I've been wondering whether it was on purpose.

Yeah, this changed in 1.07. Levies come out of thin air - men can both fight battles and man the garrisons at the same time! Seems like a bug to me - the previous system was more elegant.

 

[Gensek]

I had this same problem. My vassal liked me, I had no troops of his raised, and the army tab showed that he had troops that I could raise. The raise levy button was greyed out, preventing me from accessing his troops. To me this was a pretty big deal, since this particular vassal controlled one third of the military of my kingdom (I kinda needed his cooperation).

This bug can be fixed, if you're comfortable with editing save files. Here's how I did it:
- Backup your latest save game, then open it up in a text editor (or preferably in a programming environment--to help you keep tract of the pairs of brackets that group stuff together)
- Find the vassal whose troops you can't raise. To do this, try searching for his first name. The longer name with titles and such won't be present in the save file, only his birth name. Check your vassals birth date to be sure you have the right person.
- In the saved data for this person, you'll find a section that looks like this: "raised_liege_troops={######}" That number in the brackets is the problem. The save file is saying you have raised his troops. If the troops really are not currently fielded, the brackets should be blank.
- Delete the number in the brackets and save your changes to the file.

This fixed the problem for me. Be careful, though. Be sure this is a glitch and not an oversight on your part. Haphazardly editing you save game can mess things up if done improperly.

 

[ASPGolan]

I ran into the same issue. Am waving between is a bug and isn't a bug for sometime, its definitely a screw up. Even if a part of the levy was already raised, it should be possible to raise the newly trained dog meat, I mean brave soldiers.

At first I thought it might be because I disbanded far from home - and it takes them a while to return. BUT, wtf, 2 years later, the vassal's troops are fully regenerated and I can't still raise my share.

I also thought that the problem might be caused because the vassal raised its troops shortly after I disbanded mine (I thought that maybe one of us at the time can raise those armies, but hell, the kingdom of greece gives me 40% of my total troops, non mercs).

 

[ASPGolan]

This bug can be fixed, if you're comfortable with editing save files. Here's how I did it:
- Backup your latest save game, then open it up in a text editor (or preferably in a programming environment--to help you keep tract of the pairs of brackets that group stuff together)
- Find the vassal whose troops you can't raise. To do this, try searching for his first name. The longer name with titles and such won't be present in the save file, only his birth name. Check your vassals birth date to be sure you have the right person.
- In the saved data for this person, you'll find a section that looks like this: "raised_liege_troops={######}" That number in the brackets is the problem. The save file is saying you have raised his troops. If the troops really are not currently fielded, the brackets should be blank.
- Delete the number in the brackets and save your changes to the file.

Yep this fixes the problem. Though I hope its not actually intended gameplay, that would not be cool.

 

[blueslate]

Yep this fixes the problem. Though I hope its not actually intended gameplay, that would not be cool.

I had this same problem. My vassal liked me, I had no troops of his raised, and the army tab showed that he had troops that I could raise. The raise levy button was greyed out, preventing me from accessing his troops. To me this was a pretty big deal, since this particular vassal controlled one third of the military of my kingdom (I kinda needed his cooperation).

This bug can be fixed, if you're comfortable with editing save files. Here's how I did it:
- Backup your latest save game, then open it up in a text editor (or preferably in a programming environment--to help you keep tract of the pairs of brackets that group stuff together)
- Find the vassal whose troops you can't raise. To do this, try searching for his first name. The longer name with titles and such won't be present in the save file, only his birth name. Check your vassals birth date to be sure you have the right person.
- In the saved data for this person, you'll find a section that looks like this: "raised_liege_troops={######}" That number in the brackets is the problem. The save file is saying you have raised his troops. If the troops really are not currently fielded, the brackets should be blank.
- Delete the number in the brackets and save your changes to the file.

This fixed the problem for me. Be careful, though. Be sure this is a glitch and not an oversight on your part. Haphazardly editing you save game can mess things up if done improperly.

I had this same problem in my current game and this save file editing fixed it for me, thanks. I suspect the problem might have occurred because my vassal recently acquired a dukedom in France via inheritance, but the King of France had raised the levy on the duke.

(Sorry to revive an old thread, but this post was useful to me and my contribution might be useful to the next person to find it in Google).

 

[Nussor]

I got this same problem, too, after my Shah died and I granted a Satrapy to my brother. Fun thing is, I can raise zero vassal levies. From nobody. Is there any way that this bug fixes itself in some way?