Unable to core and peacing out - bug or intentional change?

[FunkyGroovyGuy]

Apologies if this has already been asked, I couldn't find anything about it. Also, not sure if this is a bug, or intentional:

I wanted to separate peace East Frisia and annex them; the treaty window said I couldn't take their province because I couldn't core. At the time, Holland was occupied. Once I liberated it, I was able to ask for East Frisia.

It looks like the system is checking to see if you can core it RIGHT THAT SECOND, not can you core it eventually, once you're at peace. I don't remember reading anything in the patch notes about this. Anyone else noticed this?

 

[bradles0]

Same thing happened to me when i was trying to take Calais and Pale from England while Saintonge was occupied they day of the patch

 

[bbqftw]

A classic change where a half-thought out change happens to have a number of effects that can only be predicted if you actually understand game mechanics.

 

[gigau]

It looks like the system is checking to see if you can core it RIGHT THAT SECOND, not can you core it eventually, once you're at peace. I don't remember reading anything in the patch notes about this. Anyone else noticed this?

Given that you could end up losing the province you lost control of in a peace deal (or at the very least the AI could), i would say it is intentional (and logical) that the game looks at the situation right that second.

 

[Badesumofu]

Given that you could end up losing the province you lost control of in a peace deal (or at the very least the AI could), i would say it is intentional (and logical) that the game looks at the situation right that second.

On that reasoning you shouldn't be able to take land that you don't currently have the ADM points to core, either. Or shouldn't be able to take something that is also a core of someone you are still at war with (and thus couldn't immediately core). Doesn't feel right to me. The rule isn't meant to be that you can't take anything that you can't core right that very minute. It's meant to prevent you taking land that you couldn't core without either gaining ownership of something closer or increasing your coring range. A province being occupied or not feels more like a temporary issue like having enough ADM points. Occupied inherently implies a temporary state of affairs, whereas ownership is indefinite.